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Food and water
Pandemon:
What harsh you see in eating radiated fruits?
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 12, 2010, 12:43:17 pm ---It won't be implemented to hurt the "server elite" or other players, but for the atmosphere. ::)
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I'm eating a sandwich right now. It's not particularly cool, neither is it post-apo. It's exactly as I've said - introducing easy to get food is pointless, introducing hard to get food is going to hit low-tier players (and some people will support it because they think it will hurt the best gangs because this subforum is retarded like that).
Also, it's not "server elite" as some dumb people would like to believe (as in "there's no elite and I'm cool like that"). This server has an elite, everyone who has played for more than a month knows who these people are and the GMs/moderators harboring some kind of spite towards them... oh well, one could write a master thesis on sociology with this one. I guess the problem lies with the devs recruiting such people from the NCR community and epic radscorpion murderers instead of people who actually play the friggin' game.
Surf:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on July 12, 2010, 12:54:52 pm ---Also, it's not "server elite" as some dumb people would like to believe (as in "there's no elite and I'm cool like that"). This server has an elite, everyone who has played for more than a month knows who these people are and the GMs/moderators harboring some kind of spite towards them... oh well, one could write a master thesis on sociology with this one.
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If your so called "elite" is basing on the people who constantly cause trouble on the forum, the game itself or on IRC, people who are "playing" the game in the kind of actually shooting each other 24/7, then for sure you are right. Also, ofcourse not "pro pvping" constantly automatically makes a player not a player, but ofcourse a so called "noob". Right.
--- Quote ---I guess the problem lies with the devs recruiting such people from the NCR community and epic radscorpion murderers instead of people who actually play the friggin' game.
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Oh yes, every member of the staff is a "NCR n00b" who reached his mastery in killing the baddest radscorpion. That automatically qualifies them to get powers to harass you noble and innocent "elite" players.
--- Quote ---I'm eating a sandwich right now. It's not particularly cool, neither is it post-apo. It's exactly as I've said - introducing easy to get food is pointless, introducing hard to get food is going to hit low-tier players (and some people will support it because they think it will hurt the best gangs because this subforum is retarded like that).
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Oh yes! Comparing you making a sandwich is absolutely comparable to the wasteland. Also - it's not that people are hungry or low on water in the postapocalypse? Screw that, who needs to actually survive when you can just shoot each other?
In damn near every postapo-movie/book/game people are fighting each other for the food, for the water. It was present in Fallout too. People smash each others head to get maybe a little piece of meat to survive the next day, people throw other people rocks in the face till they die in order to get the water they've seen on the victim. And for what are you fighting now?
You are fighting for the lulz, because you can, there is no actual meaning in fighting each other other then "I am pr0, I kill you" or "I want this armor!".
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 12, 2010, 01:08:00 pm ---If your so called "elite" is basing on the people who constantly cause trouble on the forum, the game itself or on IRC, people who are "playing" the game in the kind of actually shooting each other 24/7, then for sure you are right. Also, ofcourse not "pro pvping" constantly automatically makes a player not a player, but ofcourse a so called "noob". Right.
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Somehow these people magically find most bugs and balance the PvP element. Moreover, those people (also magically) are responsible for the current TC system that magically suits almost everyone and magically doesn't have any problems with bluesuit takeovers and swarms-effing-everywhere. See, it's magic.
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 12, 2010, 01:08:00 pm ---Oh yes, every member of the staff is a "NCR n00b" who reached his mastery in killing the baddest radscorpion. That automatically qualifies them to get powers to harass you noble and innocent "elite" players.
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Yes, most of the recent nominations are dumb like that. Because honestly, nobody would even recognize you if not for the fact that you have teh power.
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 12, 2010, 01:08:00 pm ---Oh yes! Comparing you making a sandwich is absolutely comparable to the wasteland. Also - it's not that people are hungry or low on water in the postapocalypse? Screw that, who needs to actually survive when you can just shoot each other?
In damn near every postapo-movie/book/game people are fighting each other for the food, for the water. It was present in Fallout too. People smash each others head to get maybe a little piece of meat to survive the next day, people throw other people rocks in the face till they die in order to get the water they've seen on the victim. And for what are you fighting now?".
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So yeah. You want food to be hard to get (oh, look, the Nice_Boat prophecy is true). So basically you want all the inexperienced players to be royally effed up their arses. It's totally not like I've said this a few posts earlier. Feel good now?
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 12, 2010, 01:08:00 pm ---You are fighting for the lulz, because you can, there is no actual meaning in fighting each other other then "I am pr0, I kill you" or "I want this armor!
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This is particularly delicious because it proves you don't know anything about wasteland politics and you actually are one of the NCR community. See, we're not. We're fighting for power, because the game is set up like that. And in the end, if there was no wipe, one group could achieve something close to a total victory. The TTTLA group could have their wish of a safe north granted, we could have our wish of constant warfare and chaos granted etc. Player created environment at its best. But there's no point in explaining this stuff to someone like you, because you see the gangs as bad people who always placed you on the output side of a minigun.
Surf:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on July 12, 2010, 01:18:42 pm ---Somehow these people magically find most bugs
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And magically don't report them unless it's no exploit which gives them advantages.
--- Quote ---Moreover, those people (also magically) are responsible for the current TC system that magically suits almost everyone and magically doesn't have any problems with bluesuit takeovers and swarms-effing-everywhere. See, it's magic.
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Magically, no one denied that some of these suggestions were helpfull. Also, keep in mind that the game is far from finished and many things will change in the future anyway (pvp elements too). Also - lol @ "magically suiting everyone". Indeed, thats magic! :D
--- Quote ---Yes, most of the recent nominations are dumb like that. Because honestly, nobody would even recognize you if not for the fact that you have teh power.
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And who cares if one recognizes me or other staff members? What a flying fuck does it matter if some people are recognizing you? Another "magic" argument. That people are actually quite helpfull behind the scenes probably slipped your mind.
--- Quote ---So yeah. You want food to be hard to get (oh, look, the Nice_Boat prophecy is true). So basically you want all the inexperienced players to be royally effed up their arses. It's totally not like I've said this a few posts earlier. Feel good now?
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Did I say that? No. You'll see what the future brings anyway.
--- Quote ---This is particularly delicious because it proves you don't know anything about wasteland politics and you actually are one of the NCR community. See, we're not. We're fighting for power, because the game is set up like that. And in the end, if there was no wipe, one group could achieve something close to a total victory. But there's no point in explaining this stuff to someone like you, because you see the gangs as bad people who always placed you on the output side of a minigun.
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You must be a bad wizard to assume I am also part of the "NCR community" as I've visited this place with my normal playing characters only one time since the last wipe since I hate this city too. That sure makes me part of the community (besides that no one gives a fuck about that). And, now enlighten my poor ncr-ish mind, for which "power" you are fighting? The power to annoy all other gangs, to "have" all cities, to power your egos seeing the name in the pipboy?
But as you said I don't deserve to be enlightend about that (and I actually don't really care) and this thread is heavily derailed, I just quote myself to come back to the topic:
--- Quote ---You'll see what the future brings anyway.
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