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Author Topic: Does having low str cause critical fails?  (Read 2013 times)

Does having low str cause critical fails?
« on: June 27, 2010, 11:16:10 pm »

My sniper has 3 str, 170 ew and 10 luck and i keep getting critical fails using a laser pistol. Now from what I know this shouldn't be possible unless just having low str can cause crit fails.
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 11:18:38 pm »

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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 12:59:31 am »

I'm looking for a serious answer here. I have weapon handling now and I crit fail on my lr all the time, like once per 20 shots. I was failing while I had the min req for the pistol too so whats the deal?
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 01:04:38 am »

I'm looking for a serious answer here. I have weapon handling now and I crit fail on my lr all the time, like once per 20 shots. I was failing while I had the min req for the pistol too so whats the deal?
Whats your endurance?
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 02:46:24 am »

Guys I think he wants a developer to answer his question, really. Not some stupid joke answer. I would like to know this too.

Now, I remember Dev saying in a bug thread that there "is no problem here", and that is all Lexx said, and then closed it. I would like to get a definite answer of if weapon handling really makes all aspects of firing a gun increase with the +3 Strength that it should give.
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 03:09:19 am »

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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 03:11:30 am »

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Endurance affects critical failures so thats why.

Having 1 Endurance wil cause you to crit fail a shitload.
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 03:36:43 am »

God I hate this current generation of noobs, you know nothing about the game bla bla mimimi shut the fuck up...

Oh damn, straight in your face.  8)
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 04:40:10 am »

Only to-hit roll margin and weapon's deterioration affect critical failure chance. Critical miss effect depends on Luck.
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 04:46:20 am »

I just remembered (Although in your case I was right but not informative enough) that endurance only affects critical failures and shit if your strength is too low for the weapon.

Basically your gun is still wieldable and accurate but since your endurance is low and so is your strength your critical fuck ups are still gonna be pretty common.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I remember Solar or you Atom saying this.  Can't remember what topic it was from though....

Or is this only for Big Guns/heavy energy weapons?

(btw I might've messed up on some of the facts since i wasnt able to Full-on Plaguerize the information)
« Last Edit: June 28, 2010, 04:48:48 am by Michaelh139 »
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 05:41:22 am »

Only to-hit roll margin and weapon's deterioration affect critical failure chance. Critical miss effect depends on Luck.

well i have 95% chance to hit and 10 luck so what gives? Also my guns have all been 0% det since I crafted them. According to the tables I have on critical misses I'm getting effect 0 and 1.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2010, 05:46:34 am by Roachor »
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 11:05:47 am »

My sniper has 3 str, 170 ew and 10 luck and i keep getting critical fails using a laser pistol. Now from what I know this shouldn't be possible unless just having low str can cause crit fails.
It's not STR then, because laser pistol requires 3 STR... you don't even need weapon handling, so it's cursed laser pistol. I have 1/2 of my shots missed to molerats eyes with 95% accuracy with laser pistol, but these are just misses, not critical misses, it's so annoying so I stopped to play EW ^_^ btw I had 3 ST and 10 LK too.

Anyway what you said is really impossible logically, so it's "bad real life luck", there's no any other explanation...
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Re: Does having low str cause critical fails?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 11:09:24 am »

It's not STR then, because laser pistol requires 3 STR... you don't even need weapon handling, so it's cursed laser pistol. I have 1/2 of my shots missed to molerats eyes with 95% accuracy with laser pistol, but these are just misses, not critical misses, it's so annoying so I stopped to play EW ^_^ btw I had 3 ST and 10 LK too.

Anyway what you said is really impossible logically, so it's "bad real life luck", there's no any other explanation...

That's what bothers me about it, it shouldn't be happening but it is. I know I meet the requirements but maybe there's some line of code in there where if your str is under a certain value you have a higher chance to crit fail.
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