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Author Topic: Mid tier armor please!  (Read 1775 times)

kraskish

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Mid tier armor please!
« on: June 18, 2010, 09:24:27 pm »

Hello, I suggested this in the suggestion topic but rarely 1 response came and maybe it was not a good time of posting :). So again, I would like to express my dislike for the current state of the fact, that is, theres no mid tier armor available in the game (non-risk)

Leather armor mk2 has worse resistance to normal damage than combat leather jacket (25%vs30). I know they're maybe the beginner armors, but when you start you dont have so many options, plus as I saw recently, Metal armor requires 4 hq metal parts which makes it the only lvl 2 item requiring 100% hq materials reserved for high-tier.

Thus there is no mid-level armor in the game if you look at crafting requirements.... OK. Either MA or Leather armor needs some boost. Why? well, guess what, even if you try to be peaceful player you get owned by rogues or marauders from time to time (they got boost why cant the armors have a boost too?). So the only solution now NOT to get heavily owned you need to risk your life and go i.e. to redding... to get owned... because of pks (who wouldnt like a pair of extra hq?)

Encounters got nerfed, armors should too, ok, I dont mean all, but for MA or Leather Armor mk 2. Why?

Ma has 4/30% and LAmk2 3/25 which is less than Combat Leather Jacket (2/30%) which is crucial for those god damn crits and dangerous humanoids for like 10lvls at least.

My idea is to either boost the LA mk2 to 3/30 or (Id rather see this) make Metal Armor to be crafted from metal parts and alloys like pre-wipe, and the upgrade to  MA mk2 to be 2hq good metal parts.

The thing is, Those armors, especially in the beginning dont give any protection against overpowered humanoids (rogues, marauders) now and there are no armors in the shops, NONE, why? Because they're hard to craft, even mid tier MA is high tier now, so only crap 2 armors to wear... Making MA easier to craft would fill the shops with armors, because wealthier newbie players wouldnt use those crap armors later, really, MA needs a change...
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Re: Mid tier armor please!
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 11:15:45 pm »

do you understand what the word nerf means? It doesn't mean "change".
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Re: Mid tier armor please!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 11:24:37 pm »

But crafting Metal Armor is equal for one run to HQ mine. It's really easy.
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Re: Mid tier armor please!
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 02:22:44 am »

well, guys, organise your asses up and you will realise that gathering HQ minerals is easier than gathering normal ones :D
(at least for me, who tries to behave correctly in dangerous places *reloads his magnum*)
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Re: Mid tier armor please!
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 10:11:37 am »

Why do you open a new thread with the same content as your last thread?
Especially because your points were all answered in the last one.

Ofcourse there are "Midtier" armors. You have the leatherjackets, which are EASY to make for everyone, then it's respective upgrade, the Combat Leatherjacket (which isn't that bad actually). Then when you progress in the game and become stronger, you are able to kill them golden geckos for their pelts and to make Leather Armor/mk2 which are better then the leather jacket (watch the damage treshhold table). Then you have the metal armors etc...

I don't know what there is so bad about understanding this.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 04:18:55 pm »

5 hours worth of farming for LA materials can yield at least 30+ LA, so don't tell me it is very rare, not to mention it is already a decent armor for the amount of materials needed to craft it. The bigger problem is people are too scared of loosing gear, when they are lower levels, but by the time they accumulate "stuff" they go for MA. As I said many times I would like harsher death penalties, but this is not the topic for that, I am just saying why we do not see many low tier armors.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 01:05:46 pm »

Why do you open a new thread with the same content as your last thread?
Especially because your points were all answered in the last one.

Ofcourse there are "Midtier" armors. You have the leatherjackets, which are EASY to make for everyone, then it's respective upgrade, the Combat Leatherjacket (which isn't that bad actually). Then when you progress in the game and become stronger, you are able to kill them golden geckos for their pelts and to make Leather Armor/mk2 which are better then the leather jacket (watch the damage treshhold table). Then you have the metal armors etc...

I don't know what there is so bad about understanding this.

Wait wut? LA is midtier according to you? Theres low tier ammo/guns and there should be low-tier armors or low-tier armor for you is bluesuit? Nope, NPCs got stronger and LA/LAmk2/CLJ is nothing when you encounter nerfed NPCs (almost 100hp, madness crits) And no my last thread was not answered at all in suggestions so I decided to post here.

do you understand what the word nerf means? It doesn't mean "change".

sorry my bad, nerf it then

But crafting Metal Armor is equal for one run to HQ mine. It's really easy.

Yep maybe it is, but its not as tiring/ehausting to craft MA now as it used to be. Now as you say its 1 run to hq mine, ok, but most of the time players wont wait to go there at 11am or something not to get shot by pks its only adds to griefing while playing. Id like to spend some time more sure to achieve some effect and not travel half of the map to get pk'd when going out of the mine... Well if its easier than LAmk2, then LAmk2 should be better a bit against normal... anyway MA alone is not very much either against rogues with AR waiting on the road :)

IT JUST ADDED ANOTHER FUN PART OF LVL21 PK LIFE :)

well, guys, organise your asses up and you will realise that gathering HQ minerals is easier than gathering normal ones :D
(at least for me, who tries to behave correctly in dangerous places *reloads his magnum*)

for me it just adds to griefing aspect of this game... theres no other excuse for MA which is mid armor (ok I know MAmk2 is used for pvp and pk but I mentioned a crafting change) to be fully made out of hq, CA is made of hq ok, but MA? give me a break....
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 12:22:46 am »

I think a more viable option would be to make LAMk2 a bit stronger.  It has a higher DT than CBLJ, but as you said, a lower DR..  Which doesn't make much sense at all.
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Re: Mid tier armor please!
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 03:29:44 am »

Sure it does.  They're made out of (roughly) the same materials, only the CLJ is pliable (DR) and the LM2 is hard (DT)
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