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Discussion: Racism, xenophobism, et cetera

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lehytek:
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I would like to start this thread with an obvious statement, a mere reminder, that this game, accordingly to its rules, does not allow racism.

Some of us may not have the best opinion of at least one country, whose people might also happen to play this game.

Assume, that anger gets the best of us and we offend another player in this game and now they are threatening you with a ban. Here is where I would like to expand my thoughts.

If we have called someone a nigger or towelhead, have we commited racism if we are exactly what we have called someone else?

Some people do not realize, that discriminating a nation is not racism. It is xenophobism (xeno - foreign). I do not recall that this game would forbid xenophobism in its rules, but let's assume that it does for the sake of this discussion.

Moving on, would we be xenophobic if we would've discriminated players of same nationality as ours, saying things such as "begging romanians", "fat americans", "poor poles" or "drunk finns"? I don't think so, because we are not discriminating anything that is foreign to us.

Ladies and gentlemen, what do you think? Can we discriminate people not foreign to us for whatever reasons and get away with it?

Surf:
As long as it is meant in a more funny, "buddy"-esque way, it's not bad calling a few persons ingame "those ... poles ;)" or so.
When it comes to heavier racism or such things, it gets punished.

vedaras:
i think most of racism or other ism is just trolling taken by people too serious, im not saying that its good even in that case but still some people should relax and enjoy game more instead of listening to what people say ^^

Surf:

--- Quote from: vedaras on June 07, 2010, 12:59:55 am ---i think most of racism or other ism is just trolling taken by people too serious, im not saying that its good even in that case but still some people should relax and enjoy game more instead of listening to what people say ^^

--- End quote ---

If no one would care and watch what people are saying, even if it is just "trolling" we'd soon have an ever greater mess.

TommyTheGun:

--- Quote from: Surf Solar on June 07, 2010, 12:49:15 am ---As long as it is meant in a more funny, "buddy"-esque way, it's not bad calling a few persons ingame "those ... poles ;)" or so.
When it comes to heavier racism or such things, it gets punished.

--- End quote ---

Most of the times I call Polish people "Those damn polacks", Americans "Bloody f***ing yankees" and Germans - thats easy, just "Damn Nazis"

Why? Cause I don't care - When I play the game, I play among *friends/people I like/people that know me enough* that know my intentions and realise that I dont mean to offend anyone. I do it "for lulz" cause you can only laugh about racists etc - they are just stupid - it comes with beeing funny very often. So yeah - you can "hear" many different hate-words, but it doesnt change a fact, that I dont really care who I play with as long as they are nice people.

On the other hand - I might have just lied in the sentence above. Actually i tend to pull the trigger more often on random encounters, when i see russian players. But i see it that way - the fact that we speak in totally different languages and cannot understand each other since the beggining makes both of us more eager to fight. So the reason is not "cause hes a Russian" the reason is "cause we cant understand each other and it wont make it easy to ally with that person".

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