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New aspect of Sneak Ability
Magor:
--- Quote from: Lordus on April 28, 2010, 09:44:08 pm --- Then i a want to be Spock :))
I think that stone scissors paper is good way where to start balancing game classes, but how can sneaker could be counter measure against snipers, if snipers have the biggest perception and perception is reducing the sneaker invisibility cloak. In fact, sniper is counter measure for sneaker now.
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snipers are the best sacrifice for sneakers with grenades (which are the only weapons little usefull with sneak). they see you on more hexes from front but i think its easier to come to their back, and then you have no chance agaist bursters (they deal big dmg and wear good armors which have big protection agaist plasma) , but , when you come near sniper, he will loose his distance advantage, he cant shoot at you so much like bigguner, you have chance to alive more shoots and average sniper wears just weak armors so you deal big dmgs agaist them with grenades.
I think sneak is ok for now, i dont know if some of penalties works but its ok, i must test it more but it is usable ability if you reach it on 300.
and please dont reduce sneak ability during day, it will make it unusable.
vedaras:
first of all sneak is combat avoiding skill not a bonus to you in combat. I would make sneak skill damn powerful for looters, thieves, scouts, and useless for those who handle any gun or armor (or maybe anything in inventory at all, so in this way looters, thieves will get detected once they loot, and in this way 3 hexes rule could be disabled (for 1 PE not ten of course :D)).
Magor:
--- Quote from: vedaras on April 29, 2010, 03:53:14 pm ---first of all sneak is combat avoiding skill not a bonus to you in combat. I would make sneak skill damn powerful for looters, thieves, scouts, and useless for those who handle any gun or armor (or maybe anything in inventory at all, so in this way looters, thieves will get detected once they loot, and in this way 3 hexes rule could be disabled (for 1 PE not ten of course :D)).
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so you wanna make sneak ability usefull just for bastards which wanna loot (steal) items.and unusable for normal players.
you better want to turn this ability completely off.
Nobody, will have main character for stealing and looting stuff , nobody will want to have character which is usable just for staying in city and waiting for fight to loot items which he cant use because he dont have weapon skill, so as was said there befor.there will be a lot of alts with sneak which people will turn on just when they will see that somebody fights in town and he will go there and parasite on normal good people.
avv:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on April 28, 2010, 09:40:00 pm ---Perhaps, sneak should work as a counter-measure against snipers in a well-known fantasy trio : fighter (big gunner) beats thief (sneaker), thief beats mage (sniper) and mage beats fighter. So sneakers could be effective against snipers but stand no chance against big gunner ;).
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Not bad idea, but it would make majority of small guns useless because if only class for small guns was sniper what to do with shotguns, smg, assault rifles and pistols?
Ombra:
--- Quote from: vedaras on April 29, 2010, 03:53:14 pm ---first of all sneak is combat avoiding skill not a bonus to you in combat. I would make sneak skill damn powerful for looters, thieves, scouts, and useless for those who handle any gun or armor (or maybe anything in inventory at all, so in this way looters, thieves will get detected once they loot, and in this way 3 hexes rule could be disabled (for 1 PE not ten of course :D)).
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Usually, Sneak is ALSO a combat ability, like the already said Sneak Attack, the "hit from shadow", the surprise attack...
But should be HtH only. Or it makes a sense if is also usable by Snipers, but if you do so they need a nerf in something else (range or crits chance or damage...).
--- Quote from: Magor on April 29, 2010, 04:00:56 pm ---so you wanna make sneak ability usefull just for bastards which wanna loot (steal) items.and unusable for normal players.
you better want to turn this ability completely off.
Nobody, will have main character for stealing and looting stuff , nobody will want to have character which is usable just for staying in city and waiting for fight to loot items which he cant use because he dont have weapon skill, so as was said there befor.there will be a lot of alts with sneak which people will turn on just when they will see that somebody fights in town and he will go there and parasite on normal good people.
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Why? Jackals and Scavenger definitely make a sense in a post-nuclear world.
And personally I respect more a Thief than a lvl 21 PK killing blusuits and workers...
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