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suggestion: Mauser C96 Upgrade

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Ulrek:
oh they probally did, they were not made for fully automatic fire.

also on the "SMG vs machine pistol" bit..

with the stock/carrying case hooked on to it and with a longer 20-30 round removeable stick clip in it, it is kind of a SMG.

but for the use in FOnline it would porbally just be turned to full automatic fire with something like 10-20 rounds in the clip, as the normal version of the gun is fed with stripper clips.

as for the uzi and MP5 thing, i don't have anything against them myself, i think they might work, at least the uzi anyway, thats a pretty old gun as far as i know, not WW2 era mind you, but still not modern.

as for the MP5.. well we have the P90c in our dirty little waste lander hands.. so i'd leave that up to the dev team.

cheers all.

-Ulrek-

Swinglinered:

--- Quote from: Ulrek on April 17, 2010, 07:35:38 am ---oh they probally did, they were not made for fully automatic fire.

also on the "SMG vs machine pistol" bit..

with the stock/carrying case hooked on to it and with a longer 20-30 round removeable stick clip in it, it is kind of a SMG.

-Ulrek-

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SMG is scaled down machine gun (or automatic/assault rifle), machine pistol is scaled up pistol.

Adding stock/etc. adds mass to the gun, but the action/etc. stay the same.

Ulrek:

--- Quote from: Swinglinered on April 17, 2010, 08:05:12 am ---SMG is scaled down machine gun (or automatic/assault rifle), machine pistol is scaled up pistol.

Adding stock/etc. adds mass to the gun, but the action/etc. stay the same.

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true.

but also, most 9mm and other smaller hand gun round firing weapons like SMGs and self loading pistols both use blow back action systems to load a new round in to the chamber.

but you are right about the manner in which these weapons came to be, but also if you look at some early weapons like the french MAS-38 you'll see it does look some what like a pistol with a very long barrel and a stock on it.

anyway, i'll wait for the devs or other people to comment before i start a "weapons debate" here.

cheers again all.

-Ulrek-

BrunoAnso:
UZI is historically old enough/simple enough to be included i think, prototypes were mocked up IN THE FIELD.
but i think a Sten is a good idea, also a basic weapon, easily made, and its a cool looking gun too.

Ulrek:

--- Quote from: BrunoAnso on April 18, 2010, 12:46:00 am ---UZI is historically old enough/simple enough to be included i think, prototypes were mocked up IN THE FIELD.
but i think a Sten is a good idea, also a basic weapon, easily made, and its a cool looking gun too.

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i agree with the first part.

second part, that sten won't look so cool one the force of it kicking one spraying bullets makes you pull the clip out, as holding on to the stick clip is the only way to hold it with two hands, which is the #1 thing the germans told their troops not to do with their MP-40s. (holding em by the stick clip)

this and other reasons is why i say the sten wouldnt have a long life in the waste land, easy to make, but due to its problems it would have to be a "fallout future" version of it, other wise the wastelanders would find its flaws to be greater than its good points, and it'd end up in the same pile as pipe rifles, but with a much higher price tag likely.

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