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Revaluate Melee/Unarmed classes

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Arry:
It's a very good suggestion. I'm trying PvP with unarmed char right now, I have to say it is a bit hard. There is a very little pros and a lot of cons.

Pros:
-You don't get the first shot, you don't have weapons
-You can easily knockback
-You're good against snipers, but you need to be in front of them
-When you're in front of someone you catch his attention, good point for your allies
-You don't need hard stuff to fight, you are the first on the battlefield and you loose an epsilon when you die
-If you have sneak, you are the cheapest and fastest scout able to fight

Cons:
-You need a lot of HPs, or a very good sneak
-Hard to level-up without playing experiences
-Hard to reach someone without sneak
-Armored and drugged soldier are hard to kill
-Good kicks or punchs needs 8-9AP with HtH Attacks
-You need patience
-YOU CAN'T RUN AND ATTACK
-Items like knuckles are useless, a strong punch with 6STR is better than Spiked Knuckles
-You are not very efficient in teambattle

-->The primary issue that must be fixed is attack & running.
--> Revorking some useless perks is a very good idea
-->Make melee weapon/knuckles usefull, if you are able to perform a Haymaker, why can't you with a knuckle ? It is possible to perform special punch with a weapon ?

I add idea about sneak and Hth

While sneaking ONLY, Silent Death should have a bonus crit(or more damage) for the first attack in the back


Avv, how can you loose a kick you master by dying ? This idea will ruin MORE unarmed than ever. Special attacks are not overpowered, I find them quite weak actually, 10AP for a piercing kick in the eyes with Bonus HtH attacks is hard...

Ombra:
I've quite your same impressions, Arry  :)

If FOnline as the same Sneak system of Fallout 2, the first attack from Sneak is always with bonus damage...
Anyway: if regardless of Sneak lvl and enemy PER you are always seen at 3 hexes or less, how the hell you Sneak Attack in melee?  ???

Arry:
You can't attack without being seen but, the simple fact to have [Sneak] + Silent Death + In the back should give you a bonus

Ombra:
This sounds pretty useless to me  :-\

Anyway, at least we need a general boost, even if not "assassin" style (which would be awesome  ;D )

Roachor:

--- Quote from: avv on April 15, 2010, 06:20:22 pm ---Any time! Unarmed and melee deserve buff. But not until everyone is either punished from dying some more serious way or this kind of system implemented:

When unarmed char dies, he loses all his cool special attacks like piercing kick, haymaker, jab etc. He has to go buy them from some trainer dude. Otherwise unarmed players have nothing to lose when fighting.

--- End quote ---

That's one of the worst ideas I've ever seen. Your fighting ability shouldn't be "forgot" when you die or no one will ever make an unarmed char. Not needing items is the only benefit since you're useless in pvp.

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