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vedaras:
screw these new prices :D

Solar:
[whisper] Jackhammers were always cheaper [/whisper] :P

Like I said, cheaper, damage in between Miniguns and Avengers and lower range.

From having such low range you can also plan to use 1. Lower SG skill than the BG skill required or 2. Keep the high SG but use Psycho!  ;D

vedaras:

--- Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2010, 06:32:34 PM ---[whisper] Jackhammers were always cheaper [/whisper] :P

Like I said, cheaper, damage in between Miniguns and Avengers and lower range.

From having such low range you can also plan to use 1. Lower SG skill than the BG skill required or 2. Keep the high SG but use Psycho!  ;D

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still, i think that knockdown, or progressive knockdown (from shorter range knockback, from longer range knockdown) would make this weapon both realistic and interesting. Now everyone who are small gunners are snipers, where are jackhammer masters with 1 perception ? :D

Badger:
Regardless, nobody seems to be using them. So why is that? Is it the small guns 3 requirement, or what?

Attero:

--- Quote from: Solar on April 17, 2010, 04:27:52 PM ---That was with AP ammo.

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then you didnt use Bonus ranged dam perk - with AP ammo 2x that perk gives about 35 dam for avenger -range shot

and another thing is that pancor doesnt do 3x damage at point blank range...

and also the tougher target is BA+2 toughness (+possibly spycho) damage done by pacor will drop alot more then that of avenger

yet i dont say its worthless ...just that shotguns arnt a fucking pointblank canon

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