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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless

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Bulldog:
Solar, u mad? The damage that an avenger dishes out is uncomparable to pankor, i've already said, 30-60 and 60-110+ VS a CA guy

Kilgore:
comparing pancor jackhammer to avenger minigun is funny as hell, also I find this thread entertaining (some dudes want to have a knockback on a shotgun which will just screw them up more since shotguns have low low range and other weapons have better)

Bulldog:
This is just what i'm talking about, thx for the understanding dude) Knockback will only screw them up.

NukeItAll:
Make dif types of ammo.
Example. make 1 type that improve range.
1 type that is explosive ect...

Knokback? i dont see the use in pvp...
I mean be4 you are close enouf to use it, they shoot you down with LSW/Avenger/Sniper/rocked/Assault

Thats why i think dif ammo type makes the gun more usefull with example more range...

Solar:
Pancor - 18-29 (Average 23.5) 0 Damage mod => 23.5 Damage per bullet.
Avenger - 8 - 11 (Average 9.5) APammo 0.67 Damage mod => 6.365 Damage per bullet.

BoS CA DT - 8, DR - 40%

Pancor DRmod = 0% => (23.5 - 8)*0.6 = 9.3 Damage per bullet
Avenger DRmod = -35% => (6.365 - (1))*0.95 = 5.1 Damage per bullet

Pancor hits with 5 shells, 5*9.3 = 46.5
Avenger hits with ~13 bullets, 13*5.1 = 66.3

Pancor takes 6AP, Avenger takes 7AP so a fair comparison is 54.25 for the Pancor vs 66.3 for the Avenger (51 for the normal Minigun to compare)

Pancor costs $50 a shot, Avenger costs $354 and Minigun costs $265.5. Of course the range is lower, but we can't have every gun having equal range.

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