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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Solar:
--- Quote ---no one is saying jackhammer is weak
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--- Quote ---the damage output itself is crap
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Haha.
--- Quote from: Glave on June 12, 2010, 06:36:38 PM ---Thing is that we don't have a variety of ammo for shotgun to choose, so the penetration is very weak, so is the range and without penetration, the damage output itself is crap. That seems to be the main problem, as the gun itself is pretty decent, even for it's price.
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Damage output is great. As stated many times.
To give some figures behind that statement. The Jackhammer does 91% the damage of the damage and Avenger to CA and 128% the damage of the Minigun.
Even giving everyone 2 BRD levels it goes to 81% and 113%.
Note, I give you CA statss because its the weakest comparison for the Jackhammer, vs the other Armours its practically even to the Avenger without BRD being factored in.
vedaras:
well anyway, if for example sniper rifle could shoot only targets that are more far then 16 hexes with same remaining cost i could say that then prices and weapons strength is balanced. Now its not no matter what numbers you give us, but people arent using it in fights for a reason (we are trying to tell).
Glave:
--- Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2010, 06:38:31 PM ---Damage output is great. As stated many times.
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Great job on failing to understand what I've meant. Actually, go ahead and try yourself, who will win such a fight: a character with a BA and a Pancor or maybe a character with identical stats as the previous one, except that it's wielding an Avenger with AP ammo? Add the bonus ranged damage perk, of course. Oh, you can also do a quick test on a person under the influence of psycho, which is right now so common.
Tomowolf:
Hmm if i say Jackhammer is good for TB pk and killing mobs - Avenger for RT pvp
Solar:
--- Quote ---To give some figures behind that statement. The Jackhammer does 91% the damage of the damage and Avenger to CA and 128% the damage of the Minigun.
Even giving everyone 2 BRD levels it goes to 81% and 113%.
Note, I give you CA statss because its the weakest comparison for the Jackhammer, vs the other Armours its practically even to the Avenger without BRD being factored in.
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Quoting the edit.
(Jackhammer still fine)
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