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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
Gyper:
How about adding this shotgun to the game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c
Also frag-12 rounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQYp9fOJ9VI
Bulldog:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 15, 2010, 08:46:41 PM ---Pancor - 18-29 (Average 23.5) 0 Damage mod => 23.5 Damage per bullet.
Avenger - 8 - 11 (Average 9.5) APammo 0.67 Damage mod => 6.365 Damage per bullet.
BoS CA DT - 8, DR - 40%
Pancor DRmod = 0% => (23.5 - 8)*0.6 = 9.3 Damage per bullet
Avenger DRmod = -35% => (6.365 - (1))*0.95 = 5.1 Damage per bullet
Pancor hits with 5 shells, 5*9.3 = 46.5
Avenger hits with ~13 bullets, 13*5.1 = 66.3
Pancor takes 6AP, Avenger takes 7AP so a fair comparison is 54.25 for the Pancor vs 66.3 for the Avenger (51 for the normal Minigun to compare)
Pancor costs $50 a shot, Avenger costs $354 and Minigun costs $265.5. Of course the range is lower, but we can't have every gun having equal range.
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Well, what more do I have to say? If pancor is that good, why don't people use it? And yeah-yeah perks will be rebalanced (in a couple of years maybe) and for now, have fun with the BG builds that outrange and outdamage any weapon in game (exept sniper/lazer rifle range)
PS Congratulations, Solar, you've just made this server happy with another BG(me) ;D
Solar:
Pft, you're about 2 months too late. All the cool kids are snipers now.
Midnight:
Simply add another ammo type for shootgun.
Actually we have the 12 gauge pellet ammo that make -5AC and could eventually have a little area (like in tactics).
Put a 12 gauge slug that make +5AC cause it's harder to aim and -20% DR like FMJ.
In reallife a kevelar can't stop a hunting slug from any shootgun, so Leather armor should not be able to, putting -20% DR would help a bit at high lv and letting the actual 12 gauge pellet will let noobs or non fighter have a shootgun for self defence.
Bulldog:
--- Quote from: Midnight on April 20, 2010, 04:28:24 PM ---Simply add another ammo type for shootgun.
Actually we have the 12 gauge pellet ammo that make -5AC and could eventually have a little area (like in tactics).
Put a 12 gauge slug that make +5AC cause it's harder to aim and -20% DR like FMJ.
In reallife a kevelar can't stop a hunting slug from any shootgun, so Leather armor should not be able to, putting -20% DR would help a bit at high lv and letting the actual 12 gauge pellet will let noobs or non fighter have a shootgun for self defence.
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I like this idea (and actually any idea) that would somehow make shotguns better and more popular.
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