Other > General Game Discussion
Ammo crafting Output
Sius:
--- Quote from: yoz on April 04, 2010, 10:38:18 pm ---Whatever you intended to do, the current output is what we are arguing against. It used to be 100 units for the same resources and that is what we want.
--- End quote ---
Well thats the same song all over again. Devs made some steps (slower exp from mobs/crafting, more resources needed to craft etc.) imho prematurely and as a result game is becoming "harder", requires more time spent ingame and all that farming fewer is getting really boring. Well just join the club of "whiners" and we will see how it turns out ::).
yoz:
You can call it what you want. We are giving feedback.
If the changes had made the game harder in terms of skill, it would have been fun. But they did not. They made it harder because it now requires more dull, mindless, boring grinding.
Grinding is not challenging and does not make players like the game, it's a chore that makes players hate the game.
Solar:
--- Quote ---All this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
--- End quote ---
The differences largely come in terms of the different crafting rates which have been used to provide better comparitive rates for higher professions
Shotgun shell - Level 0
Before wipe $1400 for 100 @ $3000 an hour = 214.3 crafted an hour
After the wipe $480 for 50 @ $2000 an hour = 208.3 crafted an hour
~97.2%
10mm JHP - Level 0
Before wipe $1000 for 100 @ $3000 an hour = 300 crafted an hour
After wipe $480 for 50 @ $2000 an hour = 208.3 crafted an hour
~70%
10mm AP - Level 1
Before wipe $1200 for 100 @ $3300 an hour = 275 crafted an hour
After wipe $600 for 50 @ $3000 an hour = 250 crafted an hour
~91%
(Side note, 10mm ammo was kept higher because p90c was such amazing value before the wipe)
.45 Cal - Level 1
Before the wipe $1300 for 100 @ $3300 an hour = 253.8 crafter an hour
After the wipe $300 for 50 @ $3000 an hour = 500 an hour
~197%
(Significant boost to .45 cal ammo because the guns are uninspiring ... they are now at least cheap)
5mm JHP - Level 1
Before wipe $1200 for 100 @ $3300 an hour = 275 crafted an hour
After wipe $350 for 50 @ $3000 an hour = 428.6 crafted an hour
~156%
5mm AP - Level 2
Before wipe $1400 for 100 @ $3600 an hour = 257.1 crafted an hour
After wipe $885 for 100 @ $4000 an hour = 452 crafted an hour
~176%
(Minigunners!)
.223 FMH - Level 2
Before wipe $1800 for 100 @ $3600 an hour = 200 an hour
After wipe $1445 for 100 @ $4000 an hour = 276.8 an hour
~138.4%
Flame fuel - Level 0
Before wipe $900 for 20 @ $3000 an hour = 66.7 an hour
After the wipe $120 for 10 @ $2000 an hour = 166.7 an hour
~249.9%
Flame fuel II - Level 2 was 3
Before the wipe $2000 for 20 @ $3900 an hour = 39 an hour
After the wipe $990 for 40 @ $4000 an hour = 161.6 an hour
~414.4%
Explosive Rockets - Level 1 was 2
Before the wipe $2000 for 10 @ $3600 an hour = 18 an hour
After the wipe $300 for 1 @ $3000 an hour = 10 an hour
~55%
(Please notice the decrease in profession levels, if it had stayed the same it would hqave been 75% of old crafting time)
AP Rockets - Level 3
Before the wipe $3000 for 10 @ $3900 an hour = 13 an hour
After the wipe $2000 for 5 @ $5000 an hour = 12.5 an hour
~96.2%
In conclusion, most times either stayed virtually the same (lower levels) or got a lot faster (higher levels) - with the exception of explosive rockets, which went lower a level and recieved a price increase and 10mm jhp which can be lethal in the SMGs, but also need to be low level, so suffer from a decrease in crafting time but having to remain quite pricey due to their unique low/high tech level weapons.
Also note just how much BG ammo was decreased outside of the explosive rocket and the AP Rocket staying the same price.
Tyler:
You just posted the exact problem some of us have with the system in place now.1 hour = 208.3 crafted.Nevermind the caps made from this and just because I used 10mm as an example doesnt make it any better that its the same for others.If I wanted to do an hours worth of crafting this would be fine but Id rather spend it doing something different.It was almost the same before but alot of people didnt like it back then either.
blahblah:
First of all - Is the X per hour based on timeout after crafting, or on amount of time you need to gather the items?
--- Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2010, 01:35:08 am ---.223 FMH - Level 2
--- End quote ---
FMJ?
--- Quote ---Explosive Rockets - Level 1 was 2
After the wipe $300 for 1 @ $3000 an hour = 10 an hour
AP Rockets - Level 3
After the wipe $2000 for 5 @ $5000 an hour = 12.5 an hour
--- End quote ---
Why is AP made in batches of 5 while explosive requires five time as many clicks? Nobody needs just one rocket. Change it into 5 as well.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version