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Sius:

--- Quote from: Izual on April 04, 2010, 05:44:26 pm ---Looks ok for me, also note that you can have fun even if you're not level 21 ! Yes sir, try it !

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Enlighten me then. As I've asked many times: What do you do to have fun ingame? How do you spend your time?

And as it was stated before you can have fun if you enjoy certain activities, but again there are people that simply don't enjoy "passive" activities and they want adrenaline and action. They should suffer just because they like something else than others? Also when you compare PvP and PvE characters then PvE crafters or average guys don't need to reach 21 lvl so badly as PvP chars. Crafters can have all what they need maxed at mid levels, same goes for SPECIAL requirements that I've mentioned earlier. But PvP has its own specific rules and if you want to join and enjoy it (and not only die all day long), you have to meet certain requirements to do so. And thats 18+ lvl, good gear, good build, good tactics and team etc. But crafters can master their goals at 12th lvl. They don't need to be 21 in order to craft those best items. If they were I guess this thread would look completely differently...

Izual:
True, true. However, you say that PvP players can only fight if they are level 21, otherwise they would die too often [against other players (PvP)]. But if everyone has hard time in reaching level 21, then all PvP players will be around level 15, not level 21, and then they will fight between mid-powerbuilds, not between full-powerbuilds. It's exactly like in OBT2 ; most of the players were around level 20, but there were still some players level 60 that were sometimes showing up with their 600hp. I guess it's quite the same here.


--- Quote ---But crafters can master their goals in 1/2 of leveling up. They don't need to be 21 in order to craft those best items. If they were I guess this thread would look completely differently...
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Yup, but remember game is still in development.

Surf:
Not every player is on 21.. And I didn't know that pvp is only restricted to town control? If you want to pvp before reaching 21, why not offering yourself as q "merc" for example, offer protection foor noobs when they want to visit qn unguarded mine etc, just be a bit creative qnd you will have fun without being passive all the time as you say..

Sius:

--- Quote from: Izual on April 04, 2010, 06:00:26 pm ---True, true. However, you say that PvP players can only fight if they are level 21, otherwise they would die too often [against other players (PvP)]. But if everyone has hard time in reaching level 21, then all PvP players will be around level 15, not level 21, and then they will fight between mid-powerbuilds, not between full-powerbuilds. It's exactly like in OBT2 ; most of the players were around level 20, but there were still some players level 60 that were sometimes showing up with their 600hp. I guess it's quite the same here.

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Everyone has same hard time reaching 21 but nolifers will do it in less than 1 week no matter what. Then if we want to play with them we have to get into the same sand-pit as they are. You see now its like casual gamer is doing some sand cakes but dedicated guys build sand castles. Thats what I don't get why don't you try to change it. No lifers will be here no matter what you do. Sure, but for regular guy it is just nightmare to do some PvP right now. Again and over again: When there is some content that would keep us busy then OK, it will be fun to play. But now its not fun at all because we have to do boring stuff and worst part on it, we have to repeat that boring stuff like million times to be able to stand a chance against others.


--- Quote from: Izual on April 04, 2010, 06:00:26 pm ---Yup, but remember game is still in development.
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Precisely! Why don't you then change leveling up into something more reasonable and little more fun for everyone rather than satisfy just certain groups of players? Whats so bad at being able to level up faster, create alternative and experimental builds and test them all? Were there some radical flaws because of this during season 1/2 so you had to change it or you just want game to become "longer"? If its just because you feel need to have game that is not 1 week job, then of course, its reasonable but only when the game has something to offer how to fill that time! We are not there yet so for god sakes why do you make it so boring?!


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--- Quote from: Surf Solar on April 04, 2010, 06:03:11 pm ---Not every player is on 21.. And I didn't know that pvp is only restricted to town control? If you want to pvp before reaching 21, why not offering yourself as q "merc" for example, offer protection foor noobs when they want to visit qn unguarded mine etc, just be a bit creative qnd you will have fun without being passive all the time as you say..

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Man have you ever played this way? How could people who camp mining sites be any different from those who will stand against you when you try to take over town? Have anyone from those who say that there are means how to enjoy game as low lvls PvP build ever done something from what they say its possible to do? You say we can have fun but when you say how then its something that simply does not work in this game or you better don't say anything. You only try to shut us up with that there are ways how to entertain yourself and thats it.

Surf:

--- Quote from: Sius on April 04, 2010, 06:15:27 pm ---why do you make it so boring?!

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It's not the devs fault if you decide to just lay a hand on just one part of the game. "The way is the goal", try out a few possibilities the game offers, be creative as said, make low or midgame pvp somewhere else and when finally reaching 21 you can take part of "endgame pvp" like the TC. Actually, it's not that different as in other MMOs ...

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