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LeMark:
The idler is shit yes, but that fixed the Fast Relog problem, is like capitalist, is shit but we know nothing better....

dskpnk:
There are very simple way to avoid fast relog, extend lvl cap & wipe server (not a wipe every 2 years). We sawn that 2238 is fucked in 8 mouth approximaly (shitload of stuff, unbalanced gangs and apparition of alts). I totaly agreed that alt was a serious problem (or not), but that idler, it only pain in the ass !

+ i never rly understood the problem of FR (ok u have 2 lifes, but u lvled 2x more than other, use 2x more ressources), and just wipe this before teams can handle enought stuff/time for making alt.

Tomowolf:

--- Quote from: dskpnk on June 07, 2013, 05:39:09 pm ---There are very simple way to avoid fast relog, extend lvl cap & wipe server (not a wipe every 2 years). We sawn that 2238 is fucked in 8 mouth approximaly (shitload of stuff, unbalanced gangs and apparition of alts).

+ i never rly understood the problem of FR (ok u have 2 lifes, but u lvled 2x more than other, use 2x more ressources), and just wipe this before teams can handle enought stuff/time for making alt.

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That wasn't DEV's failure about Fast relog, but players, that wanted to cheat the other side, so it became a problem.
Lvling in those terms is just plain bullshit.
When you got stuff to lvl up one character, you'll lvl up 10 characters too.

dskpnk:
Lvling is not the problem, feeding alt with 5ca/5drugs set/5 weapons is more problematic, even more if u have a team with 5x5 guys, gather 25 good stuff for one night of pvp, possibly resulting in the lost of 25 stuff is not so easy.

We don't care, alt madness+gang domiantion= wipe this shit, start again and give a chance to new gangs...

+ when u see that before idling server runned 180 player, and after that it run 30 players resulting in closing server, i think u can call this a developement fail !

Tomowolf:

--- Quote from: dskpnk on June 07, 2013, 05:48:35 pm ---Lvling is not the problem, feeding alt with 5ca/5drugs set/5 weapons is more problematic, even more if u have a team with 5x5 guys, gather 25 good stuff for one night of pvp, possibly resulting in the lost of 25 stuff is not so easy.

+ we don't care, alt madness+gang domiantion= wipe this shit, start again and give a chance to new gangs

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Stuff is also easy to get, but if you played with one alt more skillfull, than 25 alts with just rush-->1hex-->win/die/relog, you wouldn't lose much, and your enemies too.
This is just plain bullshit, even w/o fastrelogs there were nice battles, and you didn't need waves to use that.

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