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[DeputyDope]

you know you will loose.

it seems i didn't lose.

[-Max Payne-]

I agree for the luck

I have create 5 different big gunners

The bigguner with 10lk is very very better, no ranged but nice critic, a lot of hp, nice res.

My first big guner with 2lk is totally shit, my friend kill me with pancor char, or cripled me so easy.

[greenthumb]

I dont think LK influence chance to be crippled/Kd/Ko, or am i wrong?

[-Max Payne-]

joke of the century right here. take jet on your BG build so you'll have shittier damage resist and die faster! that extra action boy increases AP regen so it's always a must if you're aiming for RT double burster.

Jet ok will fuck your resistance.

But action boy for pvp char is shit, because you need to take 2 action boy+10ag to have the 2 burst without drugs, so you will use 2 perks, and in pvp the most important is the reloaded time for the AP, if you have 10 ap and a high reload, the next burst will come very fast. Jet for PVp build is totallyu shit.

1. PVP build M60 without BRD, full critic(25%), full res, 10AP

2. PVP build avenger with full brd, no lifegiver, a minimum of critic, 2 shoot, and high res.

3.PVP build full hp, one shoot, full res some critic ( 3 lifegiver is a lot of perk..)

4.PVP build with mrd, 2 shoot , and 21% critic, 215hp.

CHEM resistant, is a good way for a PVP-FARM char

Put 12 ap without drugs, chem resistant, you can have 14ap with jet, very nice for farm to have 2 shoots with m60 and 2 ap more.
That is for me the better bigguners.

[-Max Payne-]

I dont think LK influence chance to be crippled/Kd/Ko, or am i wrong?

You are wrong, we have do a lot of test. PVP build with 1lk is totally shit.

[greenthumb]

Well, seems you are wrong, maybe you tested it wrong way too , but LK affects just bypasses, not KO or cripple chance. 

[C.H.A.R.L.I.E]

Well, seems you are wrong, maybe you tested it wrong way too , but LK affects just bypasses, not KO or cripple chance. 

Acording to this [ http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_hit_tables ] luck affects KO and cripple for eyes and head criticals. In my own experience i feel luck affects KO in general, but i cant support this claim with facts. Never played a crippler, so i dont know about crip.

About bypass, acording to GM Mayck, the bypass % looks like this:


so greenthumb when you look at the reduction in bypass chance between 4 and 5 luck, in addition to the KO and crit ressist to eyes and head, i'd say 5 luck is probably better than 3 int. Unless you get crippled, then 3 int (doc) is better...

At any rate, 210 BG for 95% CTH at 35hex vs 85% at 200 skill is overkill. Rather put those points in FA, cause hinkley happens.

[greenthumb]

Luck	4	5	Relative Less bypasses
CtBypass	13	8	-38%
CtBypass with BC	25	19	-24%

you might be right aswell as you might be not , 95% CtHit for avenger on max range is not really necessary, thats true. So maybe higher luck will be better.

Btw have you considered this build?
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=9061&pass=lolo

[C.H.A.R.L.I.E]

Yeah. Specs  . I'd tag unarmed instead of FA though, for awareness 

Anyway, as i said, we're both right: it just depends: if you get bypassed, that sucks, and mine is better, but if you get crippled, that sucks even more, and then yours is better.