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Make this and wipe this dying server... please !
Kilgore:
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 am ---However, after some time certain amount of people realize that they in fact liked the old game. I've spoken to several players who moved from 2238 to TLAmk2 and it's not a secret that some of them would gladly come back to 2238, if their gang moved there, if there were players to kill...
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Honestly? If I asked *any* guy in our teamspeak to go back to 2238 (now or if some gang comes back there from tla), he would kill me with laughter. There is plenty things to do, and here? Log in for 2193234th time to kill the same player for 23923815th time in the same way? I understand that adding interesting content is a big deal of work and I'm not going to blame anyone for it, but the fact is that it's where 2238 fails and tlamk2 succeeds.
Sarakin:
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 am ---has it changed...overall fun in the game?
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Yes it has. Quests are big part of TLAmk2 and the translation made them doable.
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 am ---Even before the last update, the tutorial location was completely in English
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Thats false. Even several weeks after wipe, there were some dialogs still in Russian.
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 am ---However, after some time certain amount of people realize that they in fact liked the old game.
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Apart from TLAmk2, its because every other Fonline server was in early development stage. New, but not much content.
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 11:53:38 am ---From unbiased look you all have to see that 2238 improved a lot. Honestly, right after wipe the game was really shitty (sorry devs, I had to say it) I couldn't even play it due to amount of bugs. Nowadays it's pretty much stable and totally can offer a good pvp. If you really want to have fun on this server, bring your friends, raise server population, form a faction, start doing pvp... Whining about wipe/TLA features/dumb devs/xyz won't help.
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It is very simple. 2238 has nothing to offer, no long-term (heck not even mid-term) goal. You lvlup char to 24 (matter of hours), get some armor (be it MA or CA) a decent weapon (cheap laser rifle can kill) and thats it. The rest is about getting stuff in large quantities and losing it in pvp, rinse and repeat.
On the other hand, there are at least 3 achievements on TLAmK2 I can think up now. You can dedicate yourself to crafting and manage to create expensive powered armors or high-end weaponry. Or you can try PvE, explore numerous locations filled with various hostile NPCs - and Im telling you, it is not easy. Finally, you can pimp your character to the max - skillbooks, rare skillbooks, implants, quests.
Kelin:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on May 09, 2013, 07:08:46 pm ---Thats false. Even several weeks after wipe, there were some dialogs still in Russian.
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Like 10%? Nitpicking? I've been through the whole newb location before wipe and it was almost completely translated into English, in any case I was able to do quests and get out of the area just fine and many players who couldn't speak Russian did, too. The only reason I left was because I didn't like the game, not because I didn't understand.
--- Quote ---On the other hand, there are at least 3 achievements on TLAmK2 I can think up now. You can dedicate yourself to crafting and manage to create expensive powered armors or high-end weaponry.
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boring...
--- Quote ---Or you can try PvE, explore numerous locations filled with various hostile NPCs - and Im telling you, it is not easy.
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...boring...
--- Quote ---Finally, you can pimp your character to the max - skillbooks, rare skillbooks, implants, quests.
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...boring.
The hell, I don't want to play Minecraft in Fallout universe. I want to shoot, kill and rape. You offered me PvE goals, I don't care about PvE at all! Actually even 2238 is too minecraftish for me, plenty of work, occasional action. Am I really alone? Am I the last player for who PvP is the goal?
--- Quote ---It is very simple. 2238 has nothing to offer, no long-term (heck not even mid-term) goal. You lvlup char to 24 (matter of hours), get some armor (be it MA or CA) a decent weapon (cheap laser rifle can kill) and thats it. The rest is about getting stuff in large quantities and losing it in pvp, rinse and repeat.
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This is like saying that Poker has nothing to offer, just because there is no "long-term" goal, yet hundreds of people enjoy it every day. I agree about the repetitive part, but only stuff obtaining. I don't see what's wrong on repetitive PvP. Some compare it to Quake but it's nonsense, I want to fight on hexagon maps with multiple players, how can it resemble 3D Quake? You kill players in 50%(maybe more) of games.
As a conclusion, one of us was playing a wrong game, since you play a month after wipe then leave and I stayed till now, I'm afraid that I'm the target audience.
avv:
--- Quote ---It is very simple. 2238 has nothing to offer, no long-term (heck not even mid-term) goal. You lvlup char to 24 (matter of hours), get some armor (be it MA or CA) a decent weapon (cheap laser rifle can kill) and thats it. The rest is about getting stuff in large quantities and losing it in pvp, rinse and repeat.
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This is it. To summarize, in 2238 players create the content for themselves. There won't be much activity to participate in if your gang or your enemy gang doesn't do anything.
Sarakin:
--- Quote from: Kelin on May 09, 2013, 08:18:16 pm ---The hell, I don't want to play Minecraft in Fallout universe. I want to shoot, kill and rape. You offered me PvE goals, I don't care about PvE at all! Actually even 2238 is too minecraftish for me, plenty of work, occasional action. Am I really alone? Am I the last player for who PvP is the goal?This is like saying that Poker has nothing to offer, just because there is no "long-term" goal, yet hundreds of people enjoy it every day. I agree about the repetitive part, but only stuff obtaining. I don't see what's wrong on repetitive PvP. Some compare it to Quake but it's nonsense, I want to fight on hexagon maps with multiple players, how can it resemble 3D Quake? You kill players in 50%(maybe more) of games.
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I feel sorry for you, because you dont realize this game is supposed to be an MMO with everything it makes a good MMO, not just inferior Fallout Tactics with F1+F2 map.
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