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Author Topic: Need help with Melee Troll.  (Read 2843 times)

Need help with Melee Troll.
« on: March 29, 2013, 01:57:56 am »

Guise this HammerGuy63 keeps going into my NCR tent and stealing my stuff while killing me with his sledgehammer!



No, seriously, I want a melee build for killing other melee guys, I want to use wakisashi though, no super sledges.


And drugs of course, no build is good without drugs.


No idea how to do it though, since melee is technically not a real build for PVP.
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 06:58:03 am »

first of all, hammer is better, because it has 2x hex range, 2x hex range has big advantage when fighting against other melee/unarmed builds, because 1hex range is in perk "in your face" zone and gives you 50% miss.
Secondly, unarmed build is even better than melee, because you can just drop enemies weapon/cripple arm when fighting against melee and he is done, and talking about damage it is not really so different. Even with lowest damage unarmed builds you have haymaker attack + bonus hth damage perk, and this makes your basic damage with lowest unaimed attack 8-17 (also haymaker has 15% crit chance, and crippling your enemies is very important if you want defeat someone being unarmed/melee).
Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 07:03:07 am »

first of all, hammer is better, because it has 2x hex range, 2x hex range has big advantage when fighting against other melee/unarmed builds, because 1hex range is in perk "in your face" zone and gives you 50% miss.
Secondly, unarmed build is even better than melee, because you can just drop enemies weapon/cripple arm when fighting against melee and he is done, and talking about damage it is not really so different. Even with lowest damage unarmed builds you have haymaker attack + bonus hth damage perk, and this makes your basic damage with lowest unaimed attack 8-17 (also haymaker has 15% crit chance, and crippling your enemies is very important if you want defeat someone being unarmed/melee).


Terrible advice, in your face works for 2 hex now and unarmed does shit damage compared to melee.
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 07:31:01 am »

first of all, hammer is better, because it has 2x hex range, 2x hex range has big advantage when fighting against other melee/unarmed builds, because 1hex range is in perk "in your face" zone and gives you 50% miss.
Secondly, unarmed build is even better than melee, because you can just drop enemies weapon/cripple arm when fighting against melee and he is done, and talking about damage it is not really so different. Even with lowest damage unarmed builds you have haymaker attack + bonus hth damage perk, and this makes your basic damage with lowest unaimed attack 8-17 (also haymaker has 15% crit chance, and crippling your enemies is very important if you want defeat someone being unarmed/melee).

If I wanted to defeat someone I would use a real PVP build, not run around with a HtH like some noob.



I want a wakisashi melee for recreational purposes.
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 09:40:02 am »

how about this http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=8802

psycho/beer drugz
« Last Edit: March 29, 2013, 09:44:04 am by Fettel »
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 10:33:39 am »

Isn't low strength bad for melee?
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2013, 11:15:43 am »

Isn't low strength bad for melee?
As you can see he has also finesse, so low strength is the least of your concern. That build relies solely on knockouts and crippling not raw damage. With 10 luck, bonehead, man of steel, and quick recovery it is the perfect anti-hth fighter, just ask vedaras.  ;)
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2013, 06:02:59 pm »

Isn't low strength bad for melee?

Going for max damage makes you lose too much speed, its better to use 1 str with a wakizashi then spend 9 special to get 7 more damage. Max ap, low str, high hp/agi are key. The other benefit over going max dmg supersledge is you don't ave to worry about arm crippling.
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2013, 06:02:41 pm »

As you can see he has also finesse, so low strength is the least of your concern. That build relies solely on knockouts and crippling not raw damage. With 10 luck, bonehead, man of steel, and quick recovery it is the perfect anti-hth fighter, just ask vedaras.  ;)

well depends... to be anti hth fighter, you need to do damage, your build is more like anti-be-killed-by-hth but not someone who can counter hth and kill them succsessfuly :)
im not saying its bad build, because its good, but you will pray for instant kill, cause other wise more likely some more players will come and just kill you till you will try to finish your target :)
Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2013, 07:35:41 pm »

but you will pray for instant kill, cause other wise more likely some more players will come and just kill you till you will try to finish your target :)
Isn't that the case with any build played solo?
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Re: Need help with Melee Troll.
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 08:32:50 pm »

With finesse you do so little damage it's impossible to kill anyone. I've made this build and it's only good for crippling thieves in ncr.
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