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Make stealing while shopping an agressive action in high protected city's !
avv:
--- Quote from: Tomowolf on March 07, 2013, 12:51:43 pm ---I'm not agaisnt newbies, but you need to adapt fast in this game or you'll be just another player which is being used by others to get their reward.
Steal skill is like other skills, with enough percentage it should give soemthing, not being just a nice skill.
This is wasteland not some futuristic fully protected city
NCR Guards protect it from murders and such crimes, They aren't babysitting anyone.
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Adapt how?
Tomo you've been around for a while but fail to realize basic flaws in game design. And this nuub new guy spotted them right away.
Pvp stealing is bullshit in terms of risk and reward. Bluesuit thief risks nothing but has a chance to obtain valuable items from other players and you talk about "wasteland is harsh". Dude wtf.
JovankaB:
Not to mention that pretty much the only people who are victims of those trolls who risk nothing are newbies. It's close to impossible to steal anything of real value from an experienced player (although you can still troll them).
Tomowolf:
--- Quote from: avv on March 07, 2013, 01:20:21 pm ---Adapt how?
Tomo you've been around for a while but fail to realize basic flaws in game design. And this nuub new guy spotted them right away.
Pvp stealing is bullshit in terms of risk and reward. Bluesuit thief risks nothing but has a chance to obtain valuable items from other players and you talk about "wasteland is harsh". Dude wtf.
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I wanted just to make it more exiting topic but well, you've disguised me!; D
For real - yes, the stealer loses nothing but karma, which goes up daily so it doesn't even change a thing.
One thing can be done - like half the chance of success of stealing (on players, if done for all, it won't be even worth to make such character), or put guards in shops so they just do not watch at walls but they warn about having weapon in hands, and getting near to the customer, or catch stealers and shoot them right away - but well - those are just mere suggestions.
Kelin:
--- Quote from: odjo on March 07, 2013, 12:23:31 pm ---About one week playing, I really felt that new players aren't welcome arround, bad point.
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Damn right, it's hard to find new players who never played Fallout and didn't ragequit in first two weeks of playing.
odjo:
--- Quote from: Kelin on March 07, 2013, 01:34:38 pm ---Damn right, it's hard to find new players who never played Fallout and didn't ragequit in first two weeks of playing.
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I'll try not to. ::)
But yeah something need to be done arround this I guess, my position was that a noob could find @ least 1 shop were he could take his time and not to be worried about fuk-biiip-g counting how he can make the deal while trying to see if someone try to sneak arround.
(Yeah trade can be kind of awfull somtimes ^^ ,30 sec is harsh)
But I thought that this is what the game is about and that maybe many of you enjoy this feeling so I came with an Hybrid suggestion that could synergise both point of views.
What about 30 sec immunitie to steal while speaking to a trader ? :D
Honestly at this moment, both, the trader and us,we are shecking our stuff to see what we have to exchange, no one could posssibly come and take something of what we have in front of our eyes, no ?
Is it an implemantable solution ? Does the "engine" can allow this ? We could do some testing ?
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