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Changelog 23/02/2013
T-888:
For what? Time, not sure about you, but for me time is important and valuable. Only 2 minutes here and there, what's the harm, right? That's like comparable to poker when you throw much blinds away on the table, let someone else take them convincing yourself it is just a little bit without putting your stack in harms way, but in the end of the game you realize you have lost so much in the long run. The same thing with Idling timer and my stand on it. Time adds up as time passes by. See, the stack is my time and the Idling timer is my blind.
I shouldn't have to waste it more than I already do by playing the game and I don't think any such dumb restrictions should be present for me to enjoy the game, because someone fails to realize that it already takes time just to organize for any fight and there's plenty much waiting involved already meaning nothing happens instantly, the argument about being able to jump in "instantly" whenever I want is the biggest bullshit of argument I've heard on the topic.
Our beloved developer responsible for this monstrosity completely doesn't understand what I'm talking about that you can't do anything instantly, I am sure of that, but you might.
I fail to accept it for what it is and for good reasons, I won't lay my hands down and say this is okay, because it isn't.
If I choose to accept it won't make the system any better or worse than it is.
Glumer:
--- Quote from: avv on March 01, 2013, 04:59:21 pm ---I don't understand what you're talking about. It just seems you have failed to adapt, for me idling timer is not an issue and it seems many guys from my faction have adapted to it as well. It delays the jump-in time when someone had spotted action somewhere and we have to switch characters but so what? Scouting is too powerful and safe already and sudden spawns still hold too decisive part in pvp.
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+1
Game is now more normal
Rage master:
Yes but I have base idlling timer. 20s is crap. 60-90s is what I need
avv:
--- Quote ---the argument about being able to jump in "instantly" whenever I want is the biggest bullshit of argument I've heard on the topic.
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If a team is online and in standby in their teamspeak, in ideal situation they are pretty much ready in a minute. Idle timer protects people who are inside unsafe locations against this kind of gameplay. Against teams that scout briefly, alert their friends and attack without warning. Effective, but very discouraging to fight against.
You want action without restrictions? Be inside as first team.
T-888:
--- Quote from: avv on March 01, 2013, 07:06:05 pm ---If a team is online and in standby in their teamspeak, in ideal situation they are pretty much ready in a minute. Idle timer protects people who are inside unsafe locations against this kind of gameplay.
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You got to get to the point when their all ready, organizing takes time and sometimes more than usual, especially if you have to wait out individual player timers because they weren't spot on near the PC, but they recently were in game. Do some Town Control, enemy team shows up later and then again you have to wait out Idling timer, but for what? You were just in game, you already wasted time to prepare and organize. What do you think people are some robots that will be all time ready and do everything in a minute? Does time exist for you?
What are you trying to prove here, it is bad that I jump in and play the game like any other game? ;D
How is that unfair to anyone, if you are the first team inside you'll just have to wait less until the fight can start, because we won't have to wait additional unnecessary time. Once players wait out idling timer they can jump instantly on who they want, how does that protect anyone other than just makes them wait extra time to play the game?
Fonline combat is just all about patience and waiting, now more waiting is added, you have to wait for enemy to show up, you have organize what is more time and then you have to wait on them to wait out their Idling timer in order to just get those few minutes of combat. That makes utterly no sense at all.
Do you realize you wait on other player restrictions too?
Your logic is flawed and irrational.
--- Quote from: avv on March 01, 2013, 07:06:05 pm ---Effective, but very discouraging to fight against.
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Being ready and organized is an unfair strategy what needs to be nerfed, so nolifers that don't leave PC for few minutes don't have to wait and everyone else can suck balls cuz "lololtotorolo" you fail to adapt noob!!11! Fairness is in the air and I can't even go make a tea that I will have to wait on that stupid timer again.
Listen to yourself, that is funny. ;D
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