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Gaining experience
Sius:
--- Quote from: vedaras on March 27, 2010, 02:30:39 pm ---normal players dont cheat no matter whatever exp they get by playing normally
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You changed normal for moral. Moral players don't cheat no matter what. Normal players take the easiest path = when its exploiting, they exploit, when its cheating they cheat. Server population? 9 out of 10 are normal players, rest are moral.
Badger:
--- Quote from: Sius on March 27, 2010, 02:50:30 pm ---You changed normal for moral. Moral players don't cheat no matter what. Normal players take the easiest path = when its exploiting, they exploit, when its cheating they cheat. Server population? 9 out of 10 are normal players, rest are moral.
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This. People will take as much as they can get away with. It's not their fault, most people just want the fastest path to the top.
Not everyone enjoys operating out of Klamath, shovelling a few turds, delivering Whiskey Bob's messages and living in the Golden Gecko as much as I do.
Edit: I take that back. It's extraordinarily shitty when gangs come and have to gun down the pipe rifle wielding hippy with his gecko pelts and his shovel. Thanks Cajuns.
avv:
--- Quote from: Samurai on March 27, 2010, 02:12:43 pm ---Let's talk about other way of getting experience - let's start with quests - there is no way to gain 21 lvl by doing it, and even when devs add a lot of them, it will be still impossible. They are good for start but that's all.
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Impossible? It certainly isn't impossible. From your perspective it could be called time consuming or something like that. What if some quest gave 10k exp? There's no mention anywhere how much exp a quest should give.
--- Quote ---Crafting - it's also too nerfed and near to imposible to get 21 lvl by this, but besides this - let's say that after looong long boring time you will get this 21 lvl by crafting.
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Crafting's main purpose is to produce items, not exp. Encounter's main purpose is to be threath or source of materials gained by hunting them. People should realize that nobody should be killing things just for the sake of killing. Encounters are either your enemy (you're raider, you want to kill rangers), source of material or temporary threath that you cannot avoid.
Experience should be gained from various things, from playing the game, exploring and adventuring, not grinding.
Samurai:
--- Quote from: avv on March 27, 2010, 03:35:00 pm ---Impossible? It certainly isn't impossible. From your perspective it could be called time consuming or something like that. What if some quest gave 10k exp? There's no mention anywhere how much exp a quest should give.
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But there are no quests for 10 k exp (and if they will this is still nothing), and I don't think devs will make this.
--- Quote from: avv on March 27, 2010, 03:35:00 pm ---Experience should be gained from various things, from playing the game, exploring and adventuring, not grinding.
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This is true of course, but to gain 21 lvl from different things, you need to tag -
a) some kind of guns - don't have to talk about this one
b) you said crafting is not for exp, so at your point let's say we tag first aid and outdoorsman - there is some exp from those - but exping on outdoorsman is good for first levels, later amounts of exp is too small. First aid - same. I don't even mention that from crafting then it will be more exp, but here appears another problem, which I wrote here:
--- Quote from: Samurai on March 27, 2010, 02:12:43 pm ---Crafting - it's also too nerfed and near to imposible to get 21 lvl by this, but besides this - let's say that after looong long boring time you will get this 21 lvl by crafting. To achieve this you must tag some kind of guns (bir or small or energy), and you MUST tag science and repair, cause to craft most-giving-exp things you need high science and repair. It means, all other skills would be useless, such as First aid, Doctor Sneak and many others. Another thing is - what if I want to do some silly warrior, which can't repair, but he is great in fight? He won't get a chance to have 21 lvl?
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manero:
I like the idea. It would make game more interesting.
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