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Discussion: Stop this merc / slave madness in PVP

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McLooter:

--- Quote from: vinio on December 30, 2012, 02:45:07 pm ---...unless u find some clever things to say in the future.

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Kind of ironic based on most of the stuff you post.   8)

Mike Crosser:

--- Quote from: McLooter on December 30, 2012, 12:18:25 pm ---I think removing your brain from existence is an EXCELLENT idea.

The mass amount of slaves with plasma grenades would be useless if it were the previous session, so reintroducing BA would be a nice choice.

P.S. I'm only speaking about slaves and mercs with plasma grenades.

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If this happens then I believe i can predict the future:
CAmk2 becomes completely replaced by BA,and loses worth just like CA did before it.
Players find some new weapon to replace the plasma slaves and it becomes a super effective troll tool.
Players demand the implementation the Power Armor to resist this new troll tool.
After that the BA becomes completely replaced with PA and PvP becomes something similar to that of the TLA.Noobs no longer stand a chance,guarded town trolling becomes an epidemic and the population reduces to that of the rollback days.


Adding new armors will not fix anything.Only thing that will stop players from abusing these cheap tactics is the players themselves.Yes ,you,you choose to use slaves and mercs,you choose the dual log,you choose to FR,build endless BG tanks,you choose to play rock em sock em robots.Just because you can doesn't mean you should,but you don't care.The game isn't about fun anymore,now victory>fun.This is bullshit all of you who cheat must feel real proud of cheating in a fan made mod of a 10+ year old game.It's rather pathetic how much you crave for the ability to say "we win you suck".

Now I expect a personal insult and a rather weak explanation why I am wrong.

T-888:

--- Quote from: McLooter on December 30, 2012, 10:10:23 am ---I think reintroducing Brotherhood Armor should fix the problem with the slaves, as it has the best resistance against plasma grenades besides Tesla Armor. (Pg are the main weapon of all slaves.)

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Some damage threshold and bit more regular plasma damage resistance won't make such a huge difference. Look, previous session it was only Brotherhood armor, though slaves were still present and very viable with plasma grenades, anyway you know you can always equip them with frag grenades.


--- Quote from: Mike Crosser on December 30, 2012, 03:01:27 pm ---If this happens then I believe i can predict the future:
CAmk2 becomes completely replaced by BA,and loses worth just like CA did before it.

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Even if that happens, who said that Brotherhood armor has to be ultimately better than CAmk2? I think it only makes sense if both of them are equally balanced.


--- Quote ---CAmk2           vs          BA
Normal : 40/6               Normal : 40/8
Laser : 65/9                 Laser : 70/8
Plasma : 50/5               Plasma : 60/7
Explode : 50/9              Explode : 35/8

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Dat RL resistance for CAmk2 will make all the difference in today PvP.

vedaras:
from what i red, i have seen a suggestion or something that slaves/mercs shouldnt protect faction, but the owner and i can say that this would be total bullshit, if a minigunner would accidentally hit other faction members slave, and they would turn hostile against their own faction :)

jacky.:

--- Quote from: McLooter on December 30, 2012, 10:10:23 am ---I think reintroducing Brotherhood Armor should fix the problem with the slaves, as it has the best resistance against plasma grenades besides Tesla Armor. (Pg are the main weapon of all slaves.)

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wrong. enclave armor is better

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