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[Brujah]

The idea is about not getting the stuff so easily as it would be before, player should be forced to put some effort, not just searching proper encounter and take rest stuff away, that's just lame - and that's why they were removed, simple.
It is not that hard to create alt for farming, or farm with main alt, whatever, just take your friends or go solo and kill ncr army/unity/anything you need to get the stuff you need.
Example: I've got a laser spammer/bg hybrid who can kill unity vs anything easily in turn based, looting all stuff and losing nothing, same would be with others (planned bg on ncr army)... but if someone needs that kind of stuff should know that he need to spent something to get it, not just pointless clicking on worldmap.

I don't know about you but my farmers have low rep with almost every farmable NPC faction.


An Unity vs. VC encounter would be much more intense than watching these groups separately smash pigrats.

[Mike Crosser]

The idea is about not getting the stuff so easily as it would be before, player should be forced to put some effort, not just searching proper encounter and take rest stuff away, that's just lame - and that's why they were removed, simple.
It is not that hard to create alt for farming, or farm with main alt, whatever, just take your friends or go solo and kill ncr army/unity/anything you need to get the stuff you need.
Example: I've got a laser spammer/bg hybrid who can kill unity vs anything easily in turn based, looting all stuff and losing nothing, same would be with others (planned bg on ncr army)... but if someone needs that kind of stuff should know that he need to spent something to get it, not just pointless clicking on worldmap.

No,I don't think that this suggestion is about farming.
It has something to do with farming ,no doubt about that but it's not aimed towards it.
It's goal is to bring balance to NPC fights.

[August]

The idea is about not getting the stuff so easily as it would be before, player should be forced to put some effort, not just searching proper encounter and take rest stuff away, that's just lame - and that's why they were removed, simple.
It is not that hard to create alt for farming, or farm with main alt, whatever, just take your friends or go solo and kill ncr army/unity/anything you need to get the stuff you need.
Example: I've got a laser spammer/bg hybrid who can kill unity vs anything easily in turn based, looting all stuff and losing nothing, same would be with others (planned bg on ncr army)... but if someone needs that kind of stuff should know that he need to spent something to get it, not just pointless clicking on worldmap.

Take no offence to this bro but you don't really need to actually put any effort into farming. Even my gimped alt can just bang bang pew pew a Hub Patrol in 2 minutes, sell the armor at the gun runners and walk out with basically anything.
Really the reason for this suggestion is just so we can actually have fun watching NPC's fight again. I mean of course it would be a loot problem so maybe make encounters smaller? But I understand where you are coming from.

[T-888]

Take no offence to this bro
 
Really the reason for this suggestion is just so we can actually have fun watching NPC's fight again.

Look, such encounters gave away free stuff, it isn't good and wasn't acceptable. There is nothing more easier then just looting bodies, takes zero effort. It's a matter of understanding that. If the ability to loot those encounters where cut off, then massive whine follows and everyone forgets that they want to watch fun fights of factions, witch by the way are very linear and would get boring after few encounters, not some values that stay.

Take no offense bro, but it's just waste of time implementing them and your argumentation is pretty much invalid in all ways possible to imagine.

[Wipe]

According to my pipboy its 2247.

I should write "FOnline: 2238", sorry.

[Redivivus]

I should write "FOnline: 2238", sorry.

It's always year 2238 there. His Pip Boy might get broken.

Back to theme: There is no real use of this like 'vs.' encounters except easy loot. Come on, if there will be Unity vs. VC every farmer will look right for that encounters, so VC/Unity will have less use separately plus player will have double stuff profit from that. It's unacceptable from major game rule.

[greenthumb]

if you gona farm certain type of stuff(VC, enclave,unity ,whatever...) you gona look for as frequent encos as possible.So if this type of encos will be only like 10% of all encounters (for example 30% chance to encounter Enclave and 33% chance to encounter Tough deathclaws in this certain sector) this will be pretty inefficient for farming this way and option to create farming alt and use it to get this hi tier stuff will be still better, but it will be possible to encounter both groups in same encounter and watch them fighting too

Also dont forget that NPC are looting everything dead after fight so random bluesuit has very low chance to get anything from such encounter anyway

[Sarakin]

No need to step back and make encounters effortless once again, its working just fine now.

[T-888]

Also dont forget that NPC are looting everything dead after fight so random bluesuit has very low chance to get anything from such encounter anyway

Human brain exploits once again, just find those encounters with slaves/mercenaries, combining both is very easy way how to gather full party and find encounters just like you do with a 10 player group, you get enormous encounters, set all of the followers to flee as soon as they see combat and then just watch the fireworks and loot afterwards.

Not sure whether that encounter still exists, but I did it on Unity vs NCR caravan at start of session near broken hills. Free items from both factions, sometimes Unity wins, sometimes NCR caravan wins, randomly depends on how much NPC spawned for both.

[Brujah]

Any fool can farm hundreds of sniper rifles, laser rifles and m60s by himself if he has the gear and the proper build, giving a decent opponent to each of these factions change nothing, if you're worried about ninja looters just make them lose rep whenever they loot what doesn't belong to them.

[vinio]

i ll have to agree with tomowolf.dont mess with encounters.farming is very easy as it is.i dont give a f.. to watch those npc fighting eatch other.