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PvP & PvE Are Incompatible
TKs-KaBoom:
a bit off topic imo, I'm not delving into the "ethics" or "morality", just the mechanics of the game.... for instance PvP favors rt and "balanced" builds vs other "balanced" builds which imo retards the whole rich tapestry of viable builds possible down to hmmm max hp bg tank with SS (BGonline 2238.... This mentality of favoring PvP also limits the use of other "classes" like ew and cripplers (Apes hate that, they cry so many baby tears, enough to fill 30 gallon buckets daily, its really really sad...), sg pistoleros and melee for example... Favoring PvP also relegates most skills as not usable for them such as fa, science, repair, outdoorsman, etc,. They simply have no use for such skills, they are not going to put any of there precious skillpoints into those categories... Alot of gear is extranous to PvP, carts anyone? whatever, these are just some examples, in no way meant to be exhaustive, the point is they are "mutually exclusive" desires and sets no matter how much you'd like to think they can coexist, they can't.
DocAN.:
--- Quote from: TKs-KaBoom on November 23, 2012, 11:01:44 am ---a bit off topic imo, I'm not delving into the "ethics" or "morality", just the mechanics of the game.... for instance PvP favors rt and "balanced" builds vs other "balanced" builds which imo retards the whole rich tapestry of viable builds possible down to hmmm max hp bg tank with SS (BGonline 2238.... This mentality of favoring PvP also limits the use of other "classes" like ew and cripplers (Apes hate that, they cry so many baby tears, enough to fill 30 gallon buckets daily, its really really sad...), sg pistoleros and melee for example... Favoring PvP also relegates most skills as not usable for them such as fa, science, repair, outdoorsman, etc,. They simply have no use for such skills, they are not going to put any of there precious skillpoints into those categories... Alot of gear is extranous to PvP, carts anyone? whatever, these are just some examples, in no way meant to be exhaustive, the point is they are "mutually exclusive" desires and sets no matter how much you'd like to think they can coexist, they can't.
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cool story bro, you should try PvP someday
Trokanis:
TK it wasn't off topic, and I wasn't talking about the morality either, I was talking about the fact that the whole pvp system in this game is based off the actions of the players and that is where the issues arise that plague this game, that don't plague other games that have pvp/pve. When the only guiding factor to what you do in the game is how you feel with no rules or guidelines to at least slightly keep you within a scope of actions you are left with chaos. That is why the pvp has trouble working in this game, not because it's incompatible with pve but because it is unchecked and then washes over pve like the bombs of old.
You are correct though that the game favors certain builds and that can take away from PvE, but again that isn't the game that requires it, it's the player base. Some of my so called pve characters do just find in game against most anything but a drugged up pk with an uber build. It's a choice to make an uber build, and it's kind of a forced choice because you know the others you encounter in the pvp setting will have done the same.
TKs-KaBoom:
Well I can already see this is futile... mods just lock it....I'll sit back and watch the stupidity in silence.... is that a cool enough story for ya bro? Please feel free to have all crits, small guns, melee, unarmed, grenades nerfed and whooomp whoomp rock em sock em robit your fucking brains out.... leaving your successful wars of fast relog attrition due only to your awesome battlefield tactics of running as close as you can, firing hoping to 1hex while spamming SS..... Till you realize and can admit that is the sum total of PvP, there really can be no higher level of discourse and conversation.
café saké:
If i can vote, i take pvp and pve feature.
Like a caravan trip who impact in town's bartering (and towns rewards box), where you can play raider or guard.
I don't think it's impossible to attenuate the conflit pvper/pver.
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