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Ganado:
The point of that is to keep order and nothing else. referring to the duck and cover video.

Giftless:

--- Quote from: Roachor on November 20, 2012, 02:08:32 am ---Notice how it says its determined by g/cm, hay is pretty much the lightest material possible and would be useless for shielding. Sure anything can be used, if you had a mile of hay it might help but I doubt a few bales will do anything. Remember this is the same people that sad hiding under a desk can protect from nukes.

--- End quote ---

No, the point is not everyone is at ground zero; and once you reach a certain distance from the blast, even minor protection can help. Maybe in the case of a nuclear attack you'd prefer to stand in the open air, lamenting how nothing can be done. As for me, I'd rather take a desk over nothing and have some protection against flying glass and collapsed ceilings.

By the way, according to this site the density of hay is 160 kg per meter cubed.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/j4504E/j4504e08.htm

Which is only about 1/6 of that of water at 1000 kg per meter cubed. Now I can easily plug this information back into the wiki-chart (noting the fairly consistent inverse relationship of "halving thickness" and "density" in similar materials) and get a halving thickness figure of 3.75 feet, or less considering that the wood of the barn is being used as well as the hay.

Roachor:
Ok well next time a nuke goes off go stand in an outhouse and let me know how well you are protected.

Fat Man:

--- Quote from: Roachor on November 20, 2012, 03:02:04 pm ---Ok well next time a nuke goes off go stand in an outhouse and let me know how well you are protected.

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Or how about we should be thinking about how to prevent a nuclear attack than worrying about what to do if one happends?

The only way to survive a nuclear attack is for one to not happen at all is the reality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_missile_crisis

Roachor:
Humanity could use a good culling, nuclear war is inevitable. It's like giving a chimp a loaded gun.

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