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Lidae:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on October 03, 2012, 03:33:57 pm ---Not really, because with the fishing dude it's more like he's minding his own business in his own personal space. With 2238 it's more like a horribad rock band staging a free concert in a pub and going ballistic when people tell them they suck and start leaving after 10 minutes of listening to their crap. Oh, and they were playing your favourite Iron Maiden songs, terribly. I mean yeah, they were doing it for free and all, but hey, they said it was gonna be good and made the call to perform in front of an audience, how is it the audience's fault they don't like it and dare to say it out loud? And to make it even worse, our rock band here is telling everyone that there won't be another concert if we don't pay for new strings for Bubba's guitar cause the ones he bought with his own money snapped when he slipped while performing The Trooper.
/../
The punchline is simple - you want a friendly crowd, give a better performance.
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A better analogy would be to say that your favourite band gives a free concert in an abandoned warehouse. You and other fans show up, but for whatever reason the material stinks - the instruments are out of tune, the singer has a sore throat and they are unable to keep the beat. You start to wonder why you even like this band at all. Now if you want to see the band perform again they will need some donations because otherwise they can't afford to buy new strings and there will be no new performance.
Of course the band will get less donations than if they had given a stellar performance. Of course some people will stop listening to the band completely. It would be naive to not expect some amount of rage and hatred. But if you want to go to the next concert, even knowing that it might be like the one you just saw, then you should donate. If you hope that in the future they might be able to tune their instruments and maybe the sore throat will heal itself if you just give it some time, then you should also donate. This is not paying for the band to get their act together, it's not paying for the throat to get better, it's paying to see the band again in the future, performance notwithstanding.
I think the fans are in their right to complain, and it's only natural to think that the band should listen to feedback and do what they can to become better. But this thread is not about the band's ability to listen to feedback and communicate with the fans. Please don't treat it as such. But most of all, just because you never want to hear the band again, don't hate those of us who still do. Take your rage and leave already.
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Lidae on October 03, 2012, 04:16:03 pm ---(...)But most of all, just because you never want to hear the band again, don't hate those of us who still do. Take your rage and leave already.
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There's no rage dude and yeah, your analogy works too depending on the point of view and disappointment levels. The problem is things are going wrong and unfortunately it is closely linked with the donations issue - it's enough to check where this thread went to see why. My goal isn't to insult anyone because there's no point in kicking a dude who's down in the face again, I just wish people like Lexx and Jov snapped out of their delusional state and got their act together instead of bullshitting what little community they have left. If that counts as rage in your book you must be a pretty sensitive fellow.
Shangalar:
That's a good comparison imho. Except about one detail : it's not about donating for a second or let's say, third concert, for which we wouldn't act like that. It's like donating for a 11th or whatever one, without seeing any promising change. Being angry is more normal at that point. We have been through lots of attempts and hopes already. Now we're thinking "Fuck, some guys still donate. Some know about the situation and still choose to donate, but others might not. Maybe we should warn them about what they gonna pay for."
Lidae:
--- Quote from: Nice_Boat on October 03, 2012, 04:24:19 pm ---There's no rage dude and yeah, your analogy works too depending on the point of view and disappointment levels. The problem is things are going wrong and unfortunately it is closely linked with the donations issue - it's enough to check where this thread went to see why. My goal isn't to insult anyone because there's no point in kicking a dude who's down in the face again, I just wish people like Lexx and Jov snapped out of their delusional state and got their act together instead of bullshitting what little community they have left. If that counts as rage in your book you must be a pretty sensitive fellow.
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My comment about rage and hatred wasn't directed towards you Nice Boat, but rather to the general atmosphere of this thread. It seems to me like this rage is so pronounced now that if you don't also hate the devs you're at risk of being hated by certain people who posted in this thread.
@Shangalar, I think it was made pretty clear in the OP that what you're paying for is exactly what you already have, nothing more, nothing less.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I totally understand the anger and I admit I am perplexed by some (but not all) of the actions (or lack thereof) from the devs. But putting all that anger into this thread is hardly constructive either.
Enzotainment:
What a long thread about donating. Might as well add my 2 cents (figuratively):
For me, this game doesn't compete with any other game (as I read somewhere posted in this thread).
I've seen changes in the seasons I've participated in. Some good, some bad. I don't care, it's still Fallout and it's still the most fun game I've played.
So thanks developers, rat-god or whoever is responsible.
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