Other > Suggestions
Name Colorization - possible solution
avv:
Just get it back.
Sarakin:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on September 14, 2012, 06:04:32 am ---.
I see no reason why someone who killed a person should be automatically 100% recognizable as KoS
by his/her 40 fellows all over the wasteland. If I kill your guy on a desert I shouldn't be recognized by
every "anti-pk" in california (or whole PK gang, w/e). You have no individual relations anymore,
only relations with some huge unidentifiable groups of players.
--- End quote ---
But thats just how it works, when you kill someone, rumours about your deed spread and others take caution when dealing with you as well. Colorizing just makes this process more comfortable (especially when everyone can make dozen of alts and you will eventually lose track). Not to mention, colorizing is every gang´s personal preference and it doesnt mean one should act according to it.
JovankaB:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on September 15, 2012, 02:33:28 am ---But thats just how it works, when you kill someone, rumours about your deed spread and others take caution when dealing with you as well.
--- End quote ---
Not with lightning speed and it doesn't mean you are 100% guaranteed to be recognized. You can tell
your pals the name of the person who killed you, or post a screenshot, and this better reflects "spread
of rumors", not putting people on color list, which not only always works perfectly, there is no way that
anyone can forget about you (actually they don't even have to ever heard about you), but also it works
for all characters you have, which makes no sense either in some cases.
It would make sense if faction allies (specified in terminal as whole factions) or faction friends (individual
people) were colorized green for all faction members and that's all that is needed IMO. And make sure
followers don't attack them if set up properly (not sure how it works now). So you won't have to make
new factions just to make some alliances.
And I think what would be good would be an option to colorize your killer if your character could see who
killed you and the name isn't colorized yet.
T-888:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on September 15, 2012, 09:43:14 am ---Not with lightning speed and it doesn't mean you are 100% guaranteed to be recognized. You can tell
your pals the name of the person who killed you, or post a screenshot, and this better reflects "spread
of rumors", not putting people on color list, which not only always works perfectly, there is no way that
anyone can forget about you (actually they don't even have to ever heard about you), but also it works
for all characters you have, which makes no sense either in some cases.
--- End quote ---
Don't pin in realism, you said it yourself. Color can indicate threat, belonging to a certain player group, i think it's irrelevant how fast the color spread, players still don't know the exact player or what they done if they copy paste a list and it's up to them what they make out of it, if someone see appropriate to pull the trigger instantly it's his choice, someone else might start a conversation and it might just turn out it's a misunderstanding he has been tagged as an outlaw in some list of players.
It's a good thing when the list works for all characters, why? Well there is this thing no matter with how much alts you play, you still are the same person, means that by your logic it wouldn't make sense that you remember someone shooting you while you are on a different character. It's not like you loose your own memory by playing a different character(shouldn't loose the color in that case), it's just keeping track of them by color, you might be a PK with one alt and APK with another, colors are the same, but you can act differently and the same colors might mean something completely different and associate with something else for the player who plays with the same list.
Don't pin realism, game doesn't supposed to make sense entirely.
--- Quote from: JovankaB on September 15, 2012, 09:43:14 am ---It would make sense if faction allies (specified in terminal as whole factions) or faction friends (individual
people) were colorized green for all faction members and that's all that is needed IMO. And make sure
followers don't attack them if set up properly (not sure how it works now). So you won't have to make
new factions just to make some alliances.
--- End quote ---
That is not different from old NC, you set some player group in a terminal and suddenly countless players you don't know, haven't talked with etc. etc. instantly become friendly(in lightning speed by writing one sentence in some terminal) and all your alts are familiar with your friends faction by color?
It's the other side of the same coin.
Don't try to re-invent a wheel.
--- Quote from: JovankaB on September 15, 2012, 09:43:14 am ---And I think what would be good would be an option to colorize your killer if your character could see who
killed you and the name isn't colorized yet.
--- End quote ---
I think it would be a good option to just bring back old NC.
JovankaB:
--- Quote from: T-888 on September 15, 2012, 10:24:22 am ---Color can indicate threat, belonging to a certain player group
--- End quote ---
But you don't know that the player is in the group. You just copied some file outside of game.
It's not about realism, it's about gameplay - individual relations and using your own brain/memory
instead of some automatic means of recognizing people you never heard about. It artificially
reduces the threat of backstabbing and other dirty tactics which are part of FOnline (of course
you can always kill every unknown person, but that 's your choice that you make in the game,
maybe there is not enough negative consequences for doing it, but that's another thing).
What I mean is that getting to know people, who is who etc should be part of the game and your
own experience and part of the challenge. It's supposed to be MMORPG not just team shooter
where you just jump in, shoot red named people and leave.
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