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PvP and others
naossano:
PVP cheaters will dual.
Non PVP, will have the con, with none of the pros.
Non cheater PVP will get overwhelmed like previous cession.
Simon:
I Agree with everything and it is a good suggestion to put the relog timer on death only which will stop the MAJORITY of pvpers dying in 10 seconds and instant relogging to their next character, repeating the process until they win based on how much time they have invested in leveling combat characters and preparing gear for them. It will also still allow crafters to craft and shit shovelers to shovel without being restricted by a relog timer.
Now JovankaB says that it will still be possible to fast relog or multilog as it was last session BUT this is only partially true as it requires additional hardware (not software) requirements in order to bypass the timer which the average pvper doesn't have or has a limited amount of and takes additional effort to do. Also only a few select people in a team would be able to do it which is considerably less than a whole team bringing 3 or more waves of characters and it would disrupt organization and communication between the players in the team.
This was evident last session where there was about a 80% decrease in fast relogs or multilogs and instead players chose to respawn after they died and hurry back to their tent to gear up and join the action again which took around 1 to 5 minutes depending on the respawn location, if you used a car, if you had extra gear prepared and so on, in any case that is a reasonable amount of time for one group of players to win a battle, loot and leave. Usually only one battle would take place and a town would be captured (or not) and the teams would fully regear, regroup and begin another battle which makes more sense.
Finally, unless you fast relog or multilog with proxies (which increase your ping greatly often making you unable to PvP properly as well as statements from gms saying that public proxies are easy to catch and ban/blacklist) there will be a much smaller number of people using this cheat therefore it will be much easier for a GM/Police(wo)man to monitor who is fast relogging or multilogging especially at PvP primetimes when town control timers are starting. It will be quite visible for a GM that is active a few times a day/week(friday-weekends) monitoring the IPs that connect during a town control and permanently ban their characters (not accounts) so that the cheater has to waste even more time leveling up a new pvp alt (It takes 2 hours minimum to level up a new alt while it only takes 5 minutes max to ban a character). After about a month of re-implementing the relog timer and monitoring a little bit every day, fast relogs and multi logging will drop from the 20% or so to about 5% which is an acceptable level.
Now JovankaB complains that no one from the current gm team wants to monitor this sort of behaviour as it is hard, unrewarding and boring for them and that players will not like them (which shouldn't matter). Instead of avoiding the issue completely the simple solution is for the devs to pick a player who will be more than happy to monitor the situation unbiasedly for a month or so until the remaining cheaters have given up with their newly leveled characters getting permanently banned and continually wasting time to level more and more new ones. Once this has been accomplished this policeman can be fired from the team and everyone can slack off again. If cheating rises simply hire the gm again.
Alternatively the 2238 team can stick with their traditions in not hiring new gms and instead contact current or inactive gms and explain to them that the relog timer has been reinstated and they need a few willing people to monitor it. A few months into this session I was having a chat with Gorlak who has always happily invested a lot of time in previous sessions actively patrolling the game and punishing cheaters, he said to me that he was disappointed that fast relog and multilog is allowed in this current session and that everyone was doing it, consequently he disappeared. If this relog timer on death was reintroduced, Gorlak would be an excellent person to get in contact with about monitoring the remaining cheaters.
LeMark:
I agree with all propositions except for the FR. I taught it was shit at the start of the session but now I have it I enjoy long fight. Is something we never got before (some fight are 25min+). Maybe we can reconsider it next session but for now I see a lot of PVP and is very fun, we should keep testing this way of fighting IMO.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R:
--- Quote from: Paladin on August 28, 2012, 10:26:25 am ---Shotguns Caws Pancors
its dissaster these weapon are total uselles maybe against scorpions or molerats
--- End quote ---
Hell no, the pancor is very good
Tomowolf:
--- Quote from: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on August 28, 2012, 04:53:46 pm ---Hell no, the pancor is very good
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Try running with non-farmable weapon at avenger guy with psycho used, gg before you do (you need to go at 18 hex range) you,ll get bursted twice kkthxbye, testedFletches and slugs ammo plox.
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