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Stealing is nerfed
codave:
My thief is low level still, 150 steal. I finally hit -325 rep with BOS last night, so I have to hold off for a bit. The rep being affected by failures does make it more interesting. That last hour stealing knowing that I had one more fail before I was done was enjoyable. I guess I'll level him up some this week while my rep adjusts, as I don't feel like making another thief just to get around the hurdles.
The nerf seems sufficient, IMO.
I still think that simply lowering the base cost of certain items like 5mm and MFC would go a long way to balance it. They would no longer be as valuable to sell, and people might actually buy them from traders.
BB's last season are a good example of this. They were way too easy to make, and at 4 caps each they were way too imbalanced. Same thing with tobacco leaves earlier this wipe. Why nerf the plant and cigarette crafting instead of just devaluing them? It seems like that would have been easier.
JovankaB:
--- Quote ---Does exist any repeatable way to improve reputation with BOS or Enclave?
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Yes, you can repeatedly wait. It improves with time. But in my opinion you should get -2000 and get kicked from BoS. IMHO there is absolutely no reason to have some stupid methods for a thief to improve it faster, at least not with factions like BoS or Enclave where it makes no sense whatsoever.
--- Quote ---If not what is use for stealers in game? except stealing from players
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You can steal from encounters, you just can't anymore abuse a typo mistake of a scripter that was in code unnoticed to easily steal massive amounts of items from one faction all day long without any consequences. This never was supposed to work this way. It never was a feature, it's not "nerf" it's a fixed bug. It was the BoS soldiers who got the reputation drop instead of your alt.
avv:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on July 26, 2012, 07:30:57 pm ---Yes, you can repeatedly wait. It improves with time. But in my opinion you should get -2000 and get kicked from BoS. IMHO there is absolutely no reason to have some stupid methods for a thief to improve it faster, at least not with factions like BoS or Enclave where it makes no sense whatsoever.
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It makes no sense yes, but before the method gets shut down it's best for everyone that obtaining those items is centered around an actual feature that players can participate without grinding their teeth and raging.
T-888:
I think for personal use the stolen amount is going to be enough so you don't have to grind all too much, just your not going to be able to dump so much in traders anymore.
codave:
--- Quote from: T-888 on July 26, 2012, 09:04:28 pm ---I think for personal use the stolen amount is going to be enough so you don't have to grind all too much, just your not going to be able to dump so much in traders anymore.
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This is what I'm experiencing. I also don't do heavy PvP, but I stole for an hour and ended up with enough to last me for a month. But I can take this same thief who has bad rep with BOS and take 762 from NCR, etc. there are plenty of NPC encounters to steal from while your rep adjusts.
Like most big changes, in another month this will just become accepted as the way it is.
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