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AC CAP REMOVED?
Floodnik:
--- Quote from: Killy on July 02, 2012, 01:29:19 pm ---Jotisz - one of the trolls
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This argument is invalid, move along
Sarakin:
--- Quote from: Jotisz on July 02, 2012, 11:02:24 am ---I don't agree on that its not the builds that can operate without gears. Many NPCs have no weapon at all and still able to fight (wilders, unarmed mutants for example). Why shouldn't a player be able to do that too? Only cause there are some players who go around trolling? Also if someone wants to troll he doesn't need a hth or high ac char. Any char is ok since just entering the same place to use up the ammo of the enemies is a trolling too. And its possible to get close to gears and science them even with those chars.
We should avoid not seeing the forest for the trees. No character build is a troll but the player.
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Of course you can fight like those NPCs, but dont expect to beat some better equipped player. What are the results of one well-equipped guy against this unarmed NPC ?
The problem with current troll builds is that for almost no equipment required they perform too good.
Jotisz:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on July 02, 2012, 01:51:48 pm ---Of course you can fight like those NPCs, but dont expect to beat some better equipped player. What are the results of one well-equipped guy against this unarmed NPC ?
The problem with current troll builds is that for almost no equipment required they perform too good.
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Super mutant mercs can kill a well-equipped player however only in closed environment. The character I use isn't so over powered still from time to time I can do some moves that forces my opponent to run away (not cause heavy handed they run cause their hands gets broken or I steal their weapon).
About the fact that some chars perform too good compared to their equipment I agree with that. A fix on that for Heavy Handed could be to have the chance for knock down based on ST difference not ST*10 cause now 10 st is 100% knock down. Anyway I talked about this on some other thread about heavy handed lazy to search for it and also its about AC cap removal.
Removing of AC could help a little against crit bgers in my opinion although even with 200 AC from 15-20 hex with 180-200 weapon skill the chance for hit is above 85%.
avv:
Jotisz what I mean is that when you wear nothing, you got nothing to lose. When you got nothing to lose you aren't afraid to die and start doing stupid things. When players have something to lose it makes the game much more interesting. This is why they shouldn't be able to do much without gear that they have to farm and restock if they die.
Comparing npcs to players is pointless because npc have no goals, players do.
Deckard:
I agree with Avv, And some of the stuff added to this game are just not needed.
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