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BOS Faction, POWER ARMORS
avv:
--- Quote from: Rejfyl on March 08, 2010, 11:01:14 am ---Vedaras is right. If you dont ballance it, all players will become BOS members.
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No they won't because brotherhooders aren't allowed to do everything. If they kill innocents, they get kicked out. Raiders have the freedom to do whatever they want, but the tradeoff is that they get less free equipment from their faction.
vedaras:
--- Quote from: Solar on March 08, 2010, 01:08:17 pm ---All in good time. Though not Gauss, of course and nothing to do with Karma.
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heh power of such a good armor would be same as gauss rifle as such a good weapon, if you will give for example power armors for bos and shitty sniper rifles for raiders noone would want to be a raider. I mean mega advanced stuff has to be mega advanced stuff for all npc factions not for some :>
And furthermore there should be some things to ensure usage of this advanced stuff. You have it, it means you are in npc faction, then it means that you cant fight for town control, you cant be friend of human faction, and you cant drop stuff for the ones in human faction (you respawn without stuff, but your stuff vanishes with your dead body when you have it, and if you drop it while being alive it instantly vanishes ), and if for example you take power armor, and resign from npc faction while being high ranked member (and thus having permission to take good stuff) cause your ex-npc faction to hunt you hard, that would me like 50% encounters are your ex npc factions ecounters where they just fuck you for screwing with them (it should work like childkiller perk in f2 if you dont get idea). Whats more, hitting someone in tc fight for example 5 times, would cause you to be automatically kicked out of that faction, and have same negative sides like from resigning while being high ranked member. Then this system could work, otherwise it would be just an abuse for pvp players to get better stuff and this system should work as compensation for players of not taking part in town control fights.
Solar:
--- Quote ---heh power of such a good armor would be same as gauss rifle as such a good weapon, if you will give for example power armors for bos and shitty sniper rifles for raiders noone would want to be a raider. I mean mega advanced stuff has to be mega advanced stuff for all npc factions not for some :>
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Certain factions will be better at some aspects compared to others. Theres no need for each to have 1:1 equivalents.
vedaras:
--- Quote from: Solar on March 08, 2010, 02:45:13 pm ---Certain factions will be better at some aspects compared to others. Theres no need for each to have 1:1 equivalents.
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there is need to have things balanced, if all towns hunt you for being raider, and you are even hated by ncr (while according to f2 story bishop raiders worked for ncr to terrorize vault city, so that vc would join ncr after being weakened, and you get +1000 karma from bishop when joining raiders, so these must be the same f2 raiders), and now you want to make them into even more losers faction than they are now. Where would be roleplaying if from 50 people in npc factions, 30 will be bos, 18 vc, and 1 enclave 1 raider. Since these faction are enemies of each other, having one outnumbered would cause an easy crush on that faction by its opposing faction. Thats why people should get similar advantages compared to other npc factions. Only then things would make sense. You cant give gauss rifle for raiders, then give sniper perk or other heavy advantage, there are many ways to make things balanced try to use them :>
Amrok:
@Vedaras:
You have a too simply idea of "balance" in my mind.
Following your mind would make FO like other standard game... with poor interest (if not any).
Balancing has to be considered at the whole game scale, not at the 1v1 one.
Having high-tech stuff in controled number can be a really nice thing, in particulary by a "RP" way of mentioned.
The major problem I see here is the alt abuse. As said before, Karma and time passed in the BOS are not enough.
PA is a too powerfull advantage to discourage alt-exploit.
I would be great to see more NPC faction influence, for sure.
But that would requiered some crafting restriction and new game mechanics (in economy side).
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