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Telock:
This game is not hard.

-Make Character
-Die a few times
-Read fonline2238 Wiki
-Browse forums
-load FEF on Nitue.net
-Create A new character with your new found knowledge
-Fun

avv:

--- Quote from: Jotisz on May 18, 2012, 06:14:21 pm ---This only applies to one purpose PvP ape characters...
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Man look, when a player joins a faction that does pvp (it's pretty much the only thing they do together) he wants to do what the others are doing. If all your new friends do something, you probably want to participate too. But to participate, you need those tools to level up and maintain your pvp character.

A guy who just wants to join his pals on pvp operations doesn't care about anything else than getting what it takes to join his team and have some fun in unsafe towns. So he wants the gear and chars fast. The way I explained to get stuff is the fastest way I can think of. If this guy started softly and levelled weird hybrid chars to get stuff and advance in the game, it would take him a month to get started and join what his pals are doing. Levelling alts is simply the best way to do stuff. And when you want to reach a goal, you use the best method.

Easy way would be that the older players hand out a char and all the gear for free. But that's not how it goes because the nuub wouldn't learn anything and would be asking for more right after. Best players are self-suffiecient and it's always fun to play with guys who aren't asking for favours but can handle themselves. Best friends are those who don't need economical support from each other.

DeputyDope:

--- Quote from: Perteks on May 18, 2012, 06:10:03 pm ---a.k.a. if u dont like gtfo :)

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a.k.a. perteks saying the same shit over and over again, like a robot.

Jotisz:

--- Quote from: avv on May 18, 2012, 06:28:59 pm ---A guy who just wants to join his pals on pvp operations doesn't care about anything else than getting what it takes to join his team and have some fun in unsafe towns. So he wants the gear and chars fast. The way I explained to get stuff is the fastest way I can think of. If this guy started softly and levelled weird hybrid chars to get stuff and advance in the game, it would take him a month to get started and join what his pals are doing. Levelling alts is simply the best way to do stuff. And when you want to reach a goal, you use the best method.

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Not to argue cause you do have a point though I think my viewpoint is ok too I find the leveling of one purpose chars boring while I have quite a fun with the leveling of hybrid chars thats why my choice goes that way. And I think they would provide more fun to a starter player. After all its possible to make hybrid chars that are able to fight in PvP too and its not always necessary to use the best gear its possible to have fun with easier to obtain items and its quite easy to make characters with enough skills to use almost all type of weapons.

Marko:
avv! It's like you're saying exactly what i am thinking. So i agree with you 100%.

When i started this game last year, a few of us bought some bases and started recruiting. We'd add new players/members to the bases and poured out our time to help them get going. It was too much. They got access to resources they never had to fund, and they got hours and hours of help from us when we needed that time ourselves. Later nearly every single guy quit due to the natural attrition process.

This year i think of it backwards: meet people and get them working on self-sufficiency first (ie a private base and a crafter etc). Then once we see who is left after the labor of it all has boiled the group down to only those willing to work this hard, ah then we can get a faction base together because by then we have only those members who work for it, are willing to stick to it, and earn their way.

I love helping people - it's one of the most rewarding things we can do in this game and in RL. But if you help someone too much, you rob them of their chance to earn it themselves, and when they quit, where did your time go?

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