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fonline is not user friendly i guess:,(
maciek83:
--- Quote from: Malice Song on April 25, 2012, 07:38:00 pm ---
I may be wrong, but the problem I see with giving out shit for free is new players raging on level 5 instead of level 1. I think the important part about getting your first gun is, in fact, getting it, not having it. I'm guilty of this myself, but at least to me it feels like new players I gave a cheap gun and then took Brahmin hunting, where they could ask questions about the game and all that stuff, got way more out of the deal than those I just gave 10 hides for a tent.
Fortunately there's actually a great solution for both schools of thought:
Lorraine
You get a starter gun and some ammo after a very simple quest that doesn't just give the reward out for free, but actually teaches you how to do it, while simultaneously showing you the importance of crafting, item deterioration caused by repairing, how to farm a single spot on the worldmap, the importance of running away from battles and the Fixboy. Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Unfortunately right now it's broken beyond recognition and why she's buried in Adytum, when afaik no starter quest is pointing towards her (unless you're lucky enough to spawn at Hub and then curious enough to get the widow quest), is beyond me.
So yeah, if she gets fixed, the ridiculous material requirements on the 10mm removed, her speech timer disabled and new players actually pointed towards her (or her potential clones around the worldmap), you kind of have something similar to "free crap for noobs" and a little mini tutorial, everyone's hopefully happy and I wouldn't be surprised, if we saw a positive effect on server population, even if it's just a small one.
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well i assumed (hoped) people are not complete retards and they would know ,that this starting crap is just to give them sheer posibility of fighting for better stuff and in the mean time learn how game works, so till they get first levels they will have enough of basic gear to comfortably play for themself from then on.
the thing with quest girl that gives you first gun is that they will loose this one gun the second the quest is over - when they encounter just about anyone ,player or even rats... free crap is so they dont loose ability to do a shit averytime they die... and crafting when you dont have anything is not an answer here as was proven by many rage quitters
Malice Song:
--- Quote from: maciek83 on April 25, 2012, 08:49:23 pm ---well i assumed (hoped) people are not complete retards and they would know ,that this starting crap is just to give them sheer posibility of fighting for better stuff and in the mean time learn how game works, so till they get first levels they will have enough of basic gear to comfortably play for themself from then on.
the thing with quest girl that gives you first gun is that they will loose this one gun the second the quest is over - when they encounter just about anyone ,player or even rats... free crap is so they dont loose ability to do a shit averytime they die... and crafting when you dont have anything is not an answer here as was proven by many rage quitters
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--- Quote from: maciek83 on April 24, 2012, 10:35:44 pm ---im wondering, the most wieved topic 'how to get started' has 120000 wievs...
does that rly mean we had 120k people that wanted to try this game but then abandoned it forever?
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--- Quote from: maciek83 on April 25, 2012, 03:28:08 pm ---i dont think installing the game is a problem here, if someone cant do it properly or search forum for help ,such game is already not for him so he will rage quit anyway.
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--- Quote from: maciek83 on April 25, 2012, 04:36:14 pm ---and i will repeat that noob friendly zones are most retarded idea.
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--- Quote from: maciek83 on April 25, 2012, 05:01:20 pm ---while we should be the elite of a server ;)
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Downing Effect
Happens to me all the time, too, fwiw. Just figured you may find that article interesting. Personally it really made me reflect quite a bit.
For the time being, though, this isn't going to lead anywhere.
Knife_cz:
I just hate one thing.
Plasma nade killers in protected cities
For example this player "Zen" you do know the quest with super-mutants from Gun Runners right?Well I got the item quest and I happily walk to Gun Runners, thinking I won't be killed there as it is protected town , but guess what this "Zen" guy camps with plasma grenades right inside the building - right behind the door.
I think you got it how I ended.I lost an quest item and all my loot from it.
maciek83:
--- Quote from: Malice Song on April 25, 2012, 09:45:42 pm ---Downing Effect
Happens to me all the time, too, fwiw. Just figured you may find that article interesting. Personally it really made me reflect quite a bit.
For the time being, though, this isn't going to lead anywhere.
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:o lol does that mean i m stupider than i think becouse i assume 'we' have more IQ than all those rage quitters?.... or i am intelligent becouse i assumed a regular person have decent inteligence so he can know what to do with the free crap
im confused :-X
after all i only noticed a fact: most people cant handle a game like we do ;) so lets help them...
@Knife_cz quite off topic , there is a topic about what you said somewhere
ok i get it ,i have low iq and low self esteem ... i guess i should rage quit my life now 8)
runboy93:
I got time to time habit to help low hp players (aka new players), but they all so paranoids because they think I will kill them (Which I don't want to do with my "helper" alts)
Like getting 10 brahmine hides for tent/camp or some weapons from encounters or just simply insane mutated moles killing.
I can understand, if you got killed many times by different players but you need also remember that there is good guys too.
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