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Silent Death.
Senocular:
--- Quote from: DocAN. on April 05, 2012, 04:43:46 pm ---Bad idea,
SD should work with unarmed/melee only. Its Ninja style not RAMBO minigun with nade in other hand.
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This. Unarmed is already overpowered now so stop bitching how no one will sneak behind enemies.
John Porno:
melee sd is virtually, theoretically, technically and practically impossible.
Sneakers were perfectly balanced last season. period. There was no way to make sneaking "better".
Uftak:
--- Quote from: John Porno on April 06, 2012, 03:22:04 am ---melee sd is virtually, theoretically, technically and practically impossible.
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My best "backstab" hit was for 214....I was usin' a combat knife.
Anyway Rat's conception of SD would destroy this, already broken game.
Floodnik:
--- Quote from: Uftak on April 06, 2012, 09:30:48 am ---My best "backstab" hit was for 214....I was usin' a combat knife.
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That was a lucky instakill, does damage equal to the enemy's hp, you can score that with a pistol :F
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Sarakin on April 05, 2012, 06:13:53 pm ---6x multiplier on melee ? 3x on pistols ? Are you nuts ? One lucky crit from these kinds of weapons and youre gone...
You pretty much overcomplicated it, having some % crit chance bonus or slight increase in dmg output would be generally enough,
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If you have low sneak skill, then you need to shoot at super-puper low range, because of max SD range formula, if you have adequate sneak skill, then you have skilled trait, because you also need adequate combat skill to hit things, also you'll have 10 IN, if you have skilled trait, high combat skill and 10 IN and all these sneak perks, means you simply can't have the same crit chance and crit power as regular sniper, even if you'll have 10 LK and some critical perks (with some wonder you found spare perk slots) it means you'll 100% have uber low AG ST PE and/or EN, having low range build with HP on one non-critical burst, hell yeah! Super-puper OP build, oh and...
--- Quote from: RavenousRat on April 05, 2012, 04:34:51 pm ---Cautious Nature perk gives immunity to Silent Death perk, or PE roll (10 PE - immunity) that SD won't trigger on you. Also that +PE bonus for encounters can affect anti-sneaking FoV. Requirements can contain some sneak skill as requirements in additional to Outdoorsman, like 50%.
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Then some moron tags and raises outdoorsman skill and picks that perk, and your build totally useless utter shit, because you start to play for 1 EN tank in jacket vs him.
As for melee/hth, if you have good melee/hth weapon, see some sniper camping near building that you can hit him from back and then fast run behind corner so his friends won't make you dead, ST vs EN instakill roll specially made for snipers, so that SD hth can assassinate him and after that try to escape, because as said instakill possible only with high tier hth/melee weapons.
As for miniguns and grenades... SD won't work with grenades at all, and for 2H, it only gives +10 to crit power roll, and for this you need to waste a lot sneak skill, and also do these criticals under sneak attack conditions, so basically it's useless for SD. SD can be used with pancor and other shotguns, single shot will be more powerful with SD, and if you can't do sneak attack, then you can burst. Doing SD with sniper rifle and stupid, because you'll be on low range, there's no reason to use that weapon there, so current pure sniper won't take SD. 14mm/223/plasma pistol AR/plasma rifle fast shot builds can be used with SD by spamming x2.0 or x3 more damage in torso from behind and then running away. I don't think they will be so overpowered, no one ever will post "oh noes! nerf 14mm pistoloro build! he kills everyone by shooting torso!" because that guy after doing 1st shot from sneak, will become visible, and if continue shooting, then some ..any build (BG or sniper) can just kill him in a second.
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