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PvP, even new reno is taken too seriously (Fast relog issues)
codave:
The timer didn't stop fast relog last age, and it certainly won't stop it this age if it's reinstated. People will do it, period. Even when dual logging and fast relog was against the rules for any reason, it still happened on a regular basis.
Honestly, as cheap and pathetic as using fast relog in PvP may be, that's their problem. If there was a way to stop people from doing it, I would support it. The only problem is, it cannot be stopped. Not with a timer, not with GM's, not with bans. It is unpossible to keep it from happening.
Now, I can tell you what reinstating the timer WOULD do. It would put the screws to people like Marko, who aren't using it for PvP. It would barely affect the people who are pathetically relying on fast relog right now. They'll still do it.
tl:dr - Reinstatement of relog timer fucks over everyone but those who are abusing it.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on April 03, 2012, 03:11:37 AM ---People know my hate about the timer being removed this season. This is why.
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It's pointless to discuss anything about current situation. There is only one good reason why ! It seems that developers just gives zero percent fuck about all this , they implemented a feature and i think that they think it's good and that's why haven't even given a slice of their opinion ( because they make their own game , we don't tell them what to do ) and where they stand about this. It's not like discussions about SD , where solar is an active developer participating in discussions and much rainbows like that where happy land exists. When it's time to talk about no timer on reloging , it's like dead on silence.
Personally i have thought and talked so much about this crap , that it makes me go marbles.
Cookies and pie , understand ?
--- Quote from: codave on April 03, 2012, 03:44:07 AM ---The timer didn't stop fast relog last age, and it certainly won't stop it this age if it's reinstated. People will do it, period.
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See this is another reason. I have told this like a million times that it's irrelevant to say in general that " people will do it " , but the most important thing is to focus on the overall effect that it gives , that timer that prevented this nonsense. People ignore that there was a minimum of 3 minutes per character last session , and we weren't in a situation when whole teams gather multiple alts each , like each member and makes some stupid clusterfuck of who has more alts has advantage. Someone usually adds that it's easy to bypass , like that's supposed to be fucking relevant to above said ?
* starts chewing table *
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: codave on April 03, 2012, 03:44:07 AM ----snip-
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This is not true AT ALL.
I almost, quite honestly almost never ever had anyone fast relog dual on me. Every time I killed someone they stayed dead, they didn't just spawn right behind my ass like in MW3 and burst me in the back like they are now.
Hell, I can only recall one time it happened to me... gas station new reno, I kill ass, he log off, spawns in with 5 rocket muties :). Fun. But again, only one time in my entire playing this game, all eras I played. And I have done much large TC, in many many various factions.
I don't know if you played last season. But fast relog/dual log was only used consistently by certain, very small cells. Majority of players I honestly believe abided by the rules, from my experience.
Only thing I'll let slide is that it might hurt some players with this blue-print/crafting bullshit (imo, no offense), but seriously... Last era it was better, because in the end, everyone DID have same chances to eventually get the high-tier gear. smaller players and idiots just needed to work harder. Big gangs have advantages on this kind of thing for a reason, not just fastrelog/duallog bs.
T-888:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on April 03, 2012, 03:58:47 AM ---I don't know if you played last season. But fast relog/dual log was only used consistently by certain, very small cells. Majority of players I honestly believe abided by the rules, from my experience.
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This is true , but then again someone will STILL add " people will do it " and then you can talk in circles because nobody get's the point.
Y0ssarian:
Atleast you got to patch your wounds before they rushed in again. 8)
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