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Targeting CA with Laser, Sniper and a Minigun. Average values.
Paladin:
Laser Average Damage 58.38 (6 AP)
Sniper Average Damage 51.77 (7 AP)
Minigun Average Damage 102.6 (6 AP)
hmm okey....
Question is why sniper must shoot 3+ times (3 if he is very lucky) to kill BG and BG needs only 1+ bursts to kill sniper ?
That makes sniper almost useless only for criplers 50 hex advantage but almost no dmg ...
But I never saw miniguns in pvp only avengers.
in final sum to kill 280 hp enemy with average shoots you need:
6 shoots from sniper ..... 42 action points
3 bursts from minigun .... 18 action points
so thats why is sniper so .....
Swarm:
My question is... is this with target shots on sniper or just single shot to a blue suit?
Was bonus range damage taken into consideration for miniguns? How many hexes away was the mini gun shot? Big guns do less damage further away the target is when it comes to bursting... I mean when you say you use BRD was it just 1xbrd 2xbrd 3xbrd?
I get there is no toughness involved in this test but most luck based builds bypass toughness, for example sniper or ew.
Also toughness does not give any DR towards laser or plasma just normal or big gun / small gun ammo.
And what ammo mini gun use? JHP or AP?
Average damage for laser is ~50 I've seen gattling lasers shoot for 200+ every shot on combat armor.
Hovinko:
But again. PvP is not about averages. PvP is only about lucky PEAK dmg.
And sniper + laser rifles are only about this PEAK dmg. This is why its so frustrating.
(For example get killed by two laser bypasses (170+205 dmg))
Chance for taking that kind of bypasses in a row is low, its just pure luck. But it happens.
Landrik:
Can we quit bitching?
Everyone here has been sniped/bursted/flat out damaged in a 2 or 3 shot. It's part of the game... LUCK. Everyone is striving for 'TEH PERFECT PVP BELD' yet needs to remember what the developers sought to create with this: a Fallout world we could play with each other and do just about anything within the constraints of the game.
Go figure out your perfect 2 shot builds and bitch about minor changes in your respective faction forums. Let the devs continue producing the great product they've provided for us.
EDIT: We're lucky Solar is providing us with this great information at all... quit complainin!
Chewbakka:
What Landrik said
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