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new anti-fast relog, sleepy characters after login
Aricvomit:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on March 01, 2012, 06:31:50 PM ---Dude, there are lots of people who aren't at all interested in pvp or looting your beyond repair leather jacket, they probably have more than one char and such timer would make nothing except piss them off.
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heh okay, assume much? i was box hunting/nade gathering and i popped romanbellic whom i had a fair grenade fight with, less than 2 minutes later a nicobellic shows up in full pvp gear with cmbt armor and laser crits me, the obvious implication is that he rage fast relogged to get me cause his other guy couldnt in a fair fight. FAIR being the keyword here, in the wasteland you dont have a clone army at your disposal so its assinine to assume this is the way things should work. please dont assume that im some noob, ive been playing this game as long as you kilgore but im sure your ego doesnt let you see past your own nose.
Kilgore:
He could as well have second char logged in on some proxy and kill you the same way. "Sleepy-timer" wouldn't help at all, so why bother? And leave personal insults for yourself, thanks.
Aricvomit:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on March 01, 2012, 06:58:01 PM ---And leave personal insults for yourself, thanks.
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same goes for you, not everyone is a n00b and I'm not sure if you realize your being rude when you insinuate that "not everyone wants your beyond repair jacket". As if that was even the case, you assume something that wasnt true and made a baseless comment on it. However I have been around long enough to see what kind of player/person you are, so I feel comfortable stating such.
The bottom line is what your saying is they are going to cheat anyways so why make it harder? thats extremely pessimistic and extremely disheartining, of course we should make being a cheater harder, of course we should go after people who cheat in game and take away from the overall experience. There is no reason to condone fast relog, waiting 10 mintes doesnt ruin or break the game, it just balances it out for players that dont cheat, and if you want to cite proxy abusers as why it doesnt matter heres this, just because one person is such a loser that they cant play fonline with one character but need to proxy multiple doesnt mean everyone should. thats like saying because some guy murdered someone its ok for everyone else to murder someone, society doesnt let things like this stand and neither should you. take some goddamn pride in your fonline experience.
JovankaB:
--- Quote from: Kilgore on March 01, 2012, 06:58:01 PM ---He could as well have second char logged in on some proxy and kill you the same way. "Sleepy-timer" wouldn't help at all, so why bother? And leave personal insults for yourself, thanks.
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He would have to camp on proxy all the time for this to be effective.
It's inconvenient and much easier to detect (dual logs are not allowed in PvP).
Even if it's proxy, when he is reported once his chars are in danger of being checked.
Also with fast relogs you can gather much bigger number of alts for combat.
In theory infinite, you need only one window.
It's not relog timeout, inconvenience would be barely noticeable but much, much
more effective for dealing with people abusing fast / dual logs than what was before.
BTW, I would also disable looting dead players first 120 seconds.
--- Quote ---non-issue taken up by a non-PvP'er to make people she dislikes "suffer"
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False + Ad hominem. It's not TV studio and you are not politician.
Please use rational arguments relevant to the suggestion.
Surf:
I don't see how anyone would benefit from this system at all. The people who want to cheat around this limitation WILL do so and the people playing the game "legally" will once again be screwed by being forced to play under arbitrary cooldowns, lessening the fun for everyone involved.
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