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Is this normal/intended?
Simon:
I really was only complaining about the damage from a laser rifle crit, I don't know why you are mixing them with pancor crits, I have no problem with weapons like that, they don't do ridiculous damage like a laser rifle crit did.
And crits from gatling lasers or avengers I don't mind if they do some damage like 400~ from range because that is what is expected from such powerful weapons and they are harder to get crits with than a simple laser rifle which can do 200~ damage, perhaps they should be lowered to still do massive amounts of damage but not instakill, I don't want to go into insta kills from powerful weapons, that's another topic and I have nothing to say about it.
This topic was just about what I thought were OP crits from a laser rifle, not crits from any other gun.
avv:
--- Quote from: Solar on February 15, 2012, 01:42:33 AM ---I've slightly reduced some of the crit modifiers today, though I think uncalled probably needs to come down too, judging by the crits I was getting on CA with jackhammers :/
With bonehead and a helmet on you really shouldn't be getting such huge damage all that often. Its pretty hard to read through the hyperbole to judge any decent feedback.
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Keep in mind that if you toggle the chances alot, players will be forced to create max crit chance builds only. In last session we had even 15% chance snipers, which brought variety to buildmaking.
It's effects that people don't like. In addition stonewall is level 9 perk now and quick recovery doesn't work (or so I hear).
--- Quote from: Crazy on February 15, 2012, 02:28:46 AM ---Actually Solar, yes crits are very powerful, but I think the problem lay more in the frequency of bypasses than in multipliers. All those OS crits are pretty much bypassing crits. Drastically reduce those and people will prolly complain less about that issue.
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Wasn't it so that luck1 makes you receive alot of bypasses? My char with bonehead, ca helmet and man of steel doesn't get that much over the top crits but when I get hit by laser or plasma it's still around 100 dmg because of bypass. Dumping luck gives 4 free points which is alot so guess it should have some tradeoffs too.
manero:
--- Quote from: avv on February 15, 2012, 08:55:43 AM ---Wasn't it so that luck1 makes you receive alot of bypasses?
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Thats true.
Solar:
--- Quote ---I really was only complaining about the damage from a laser rifle crit, I don't know why you are mixing them with pancor crits, I have no problem with weapons like that, they don't do ridiculous damage like a laser rifle crit did.
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And I was just mentioning what I would be doing, as I was mentioning changing crit modifiers ... what is your problem? :/
About bypass rate, yeah, dumping luck will have an effect ... but even then, with Bonehead and CA Helmet on it shouldn't be *that* common. You would be giving -20 on the damage table (essentially negating the better criticals) so @ target Luck 1 you're looking at @23% chance of a bypass when you get a critical to the head.
Say you get the absolute best critical chance shooting into the head, 10 + 40 + 15 + 9.5 - 10 = 64.5% chance => ~15% of shots should be bypassing.
At 5 target luck that chance is about half of that too.
Oliver:
Solar, do you sure that man of steel work true ?
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