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need a better fonline game
wladimiiir:
--- Quote from: DeputyDope on February 15, 2012, 10:35:52 AM ---
and then there will be cheaters trying to bypass this system.
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People will always try to bypass the system as it is always possible. It is not about making system not abusable (because that is not possible), but making it harder to abuse it.
With no waiting time between relogging everyone can easily abuse system, but with having it, some of the people will choose traveling to different mines instead of having a character for each of the mines.
avv:
--- Quote from: JovankaB on February 15, 2012, 09:12:15 AM ---How this will fix using multi-logs in mines?
You simply want more CW for you PvP chars :P
There must be some better way to discourage people from multi-logging in mines.
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So it was about multilogs, sorry about it then. But then touching carryweight has no effect on multilogs because players would simply bring their brahmins or even more multilogs if cw was reduced. Even making multilogs completely impossible wouldn't help because then player's would hate mine-afkers who just stand in mines, browse net/watch a movie and mine occasionally. They can wait there forever.
All I can say is that big mapsize, inability to log off inside (like jail) and aspect of danger are bane to multiloggers. Combine those and multiloggers won't prevail. Then again nuubs will suffer and complain about something else and powerplayers still prevail.
Perhaps mining should work like chopping wood: you can chop all you want but you must control your char all the time. Unless you're an octopus with 2 monitors, it can't be multilog abused.
--- Quote from: Vandal on February 15, 2012, 09:44:41 AM ---There is always ore in mines but people only check out mine near NCR. There are tons of mines and people are too lazy to check out everything. I have only one char that is mining and everytime I enter (in morning, evening or during the day) I get plenty of ore and minerals. I just enter once a day and get about 10 metal parts and 10 alloys and some gunpowder and all that from one going into the mine and I'm done for the day. Gecko is always full of everything and I didn't see anyone there or few times just other people mining (no pkers).
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This is true, gecko mine is full of mats. But we are talking about nuubfriendlyness here and gecko mine is unsafe and far away from where nuubs are. Besides if you're saying you're getting ores because nobody else is there, that's just awful. The game must support and encourage lots of players to play it without gameplay suffering. I too enjoy when shops restock and I get everything, but that's only because there isn't anyone else to buy. It might be fun for a moment, but if you think about it further, it's actually worrying.
Chrupek:
--- Quote from: Vandal on February 15, 2012, 09:44:41 AM ---There is always ore in mines but people only check out mine near NCR. There are tons of mines and people are too lazy to check out everything. I have only one char that is mining and everytime I enter (in morning, evening or during the day) I get plenty of ore and minerals. I just enter once a day and get about 10 metal parts and 10 alloys and some gunpowder and all that from one going into the mine and I'm done for the day. Gecko is always full of everything and I didn't see anyone there or few times just other people mining (no pkers).
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i believe, youre living in different dimension.
Im only mining in Gecko mine, sometimes top hours, sometimes not. And never, EVER gecko mine is full (well, maybe if you consider full of sneakers:]). Thats true, that spawn rate is nice, and you can ALWAYS get 15-20 rocks in 2mins. But thats definately not: '400 rocks always!!!111111one'.
The other points is that you survive only 1/3 such trips, because mine is full of HH/sneakers.
Swarm:
People are going to cheat multi log and fast log and nerf carrying weight doesn't solve issue. You nerf carry weight they well just carry less and make more trips or sign in more alts. Its not hard to make a science alt, and add the ability to science for gun powders problem solved.
10 metal parts is a joke from mining, I can easily get 50-100 in an hour science greaser pistols and other stuff. I just wish I could science for gun powder, but farming for ammo is another alternative anyways.
Killy:
If someone wants to dig and craft, why not let him do it? ore and minerals should have been unlimited. Make traders delete stuff, people dont need/buy.
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