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Crafting, economy and anti-alting
avv:
--- Quote from: Quentin Lang on February 22, 2010, 06:10:01 pm ---Looks like noone here has tought that many people (that includes me) make alts not for providing their mains with endless supplies, but for getting bored to play with their main. Using one kind of weapons or crafting all the time gets old soon. Always wanted to make a melee fighter :P
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Well it was said that characters have too high potential to be good at something, this strongly encourages players to make very powerful fighting characters who can't do anything else but fight with their chosen weapon skill. For example it would be logical that a big gun dude would be decent a fistfighter, or a recon sniper could be a good backstabber, but to be good at something in fonline it requires very high investment in skillpoints and perks, not to mention careful stat and trait buildup.
Quentin Lang:
--- Quote from: Amrok on February 22, 2010, 06:49:17 pm ---Here is the point, Quentin.
The purpose is not to be the Best in many domains with one character.
So if you dont want to be specialized, just dont do it...
Mix his character is all the interest of a system like the SPECIAL.
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Yeah, of course you can mix the character, but you cant have a character that has SG, EW, BG, melee, FA, outdoorsman high enough. So alts are still required.
Amrok:
For me the problem is in your "to be good" and "high enough" mind.
If you mean for PVP, for sure a specialist will have the advantage.
I hear your "high enough" as be a God, Quentin.
There is a lot of game that allow you to be one (near all... hum),
so everyone can see the result of this choice...
Are you sure to see an interest in a FO with all player at 10 in each SPECIAL and 300% in all skill ?
Quentin Lang:
--- Quote from: Amrok on February 22, 2010, 11:08:03 pm ---For me the problem is in your "to be good" and "high enough" mind.
If you mean for PVP, for sure a specialist will have the advantage.
I hear your "high enough" as be a God, Quentin.
There is a lot of game that allow you to be one (near all... hum),
so everyone can see the result of this choice...
Are you sure to see an interest in a FO with all player at 10 in each SPECIAL and 300% in all skill ?
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My ''High Enough'' stat ''Seal of Approval'', that i worship so much, is about worthy skill point investment in an particular stat. Now, what i mean with this ''worthy investment'', is, that, in my opinion (oh, praise the democracy), it is worth to invest your hard-gained, limited skill points in a particular stat only if you reach a particular percentage of the stat where that stat begins to get/gets useful. What i mean with that epic, philosophical line, is that it is some good investing your skill points in, as an example, repair only if you get it at 40% (because of junk), 80% (because of electronic parts) or more (for profession, or simply succesful repairing (wich needs atleast 150%)). That means, i'd quite really call anyone, that has invested his skill points into repair until he gotten 40 to 80 (not talking about forced 41%'s) or more than 80, tough he doesnt need a profession or being repairman, a retard.
(Go go trolls, troll me!)
Same with other stats - science - 40/60/80. Outdoorsman - 40, altough, it should be as high as you can get it. FA atleast 80, because only then you get normal heals (well, actually they aint, but well, il just call them normal). To afford all thoes stats, you need quite the INT, but hey, you also need other SPECIALS... Now use one of the character creator tools and show me a char that could supply himself, would be any good (in my terms) in combat and so on.
Amrok:
Hum, not sure to have well understand your mind.
But in case,
with a standart SPECIAL (not optimized) 5/8/5/4/6/6/6,
you can have at lvl 21 :
Smallgun : 200
FA : 80
Science : 80
Outdoors : 40
And you keep 67 skill points in stock....
So it seems like you can have a mixed Char with a poor IN at start, isnt it ?
About gathering (junk etc) this is Science,
but maybe Repair does the same work I dont know.
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