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Silent Death bursters
T-888:
--- Quote from: Kelin on January 20, 2012, 08:50:26 PM ---Even if silent death didn't exist, you two guys would be killed by 2-3 lsw sneakers anyway. So what bothers you? That you don't see them or that they don't lose as much stuff as you?
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It's not that simple , first of all sneakers wouldn't be so popular if there wouldn't have been so much changes done to them and yes it's quite annoying that even one of the most cheapest and easy to get weapons can take down the most toughest of characters in game with one burst , silent death or other name for the perk it still doesn't change the fact the feature needs readjustment , it's unbalanced. If only you would read at least most of the topic before starting to ask stupid questions and used some common sense.
Killy:
its not SD that is not balanced if the person using SD will not be able to 1 hit kill the target it will not make any sense picking the perk, sneak is the thing that makes it unbalanced, there should be a way to fend off sneakers, and I would rather nerf the sneak than make lets say motion scanner better ( not everyone can afford one ), the question is how much sneak should have been nerfed to keep people using their sneak alts and make it balanced.
Eraus:
--- Quote from: Killy on January 21, 2012, 12:29:19 AM ---its not SD that is not balanced if the person using SD will not be able to 1 hit kill the target it will not make any sense picking the perk, sneak is the thing that makes it unbalanced, there should be a way to fend off sneakers, and I would rather nerf the sneak than make lets say motion scanner better ( not everyone can afford one ), the question is how much sneak should have been nerfed to keep people using their sneak alts and make it balanced.
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I think SD purpose to do crt hit with aimed shot from behind, not to one shot everyone...I made unarmed sneaker character, im using power fist, have 240 skill points spend in sneak, and oddly I cant do a shit, because enemies say they see me from 10 hexes, and its hard to impossible to land SD with power fist, dont have stealth boy now(dunno where to get) maybe it will help, so if sneak will be nerfed, chars like my would be complete worthless(of course its my responsibility, I made him that lame). So when nerfing something need to have in mind that this will not only can fix OP thing, but in same time make weak even weaker.
Tankboy:
you cant nerf sneak itself,. that would make hth / meele unable to use SD, and dont forget that sneak has a counter allready, high perception characters.
Eraus, 240 sneak is way to low, for a meele / hth sneaker that is gona use SD u need 300
i have been playing a lvl24 sg Sneak burster for a few days now,. and only problem i run into is snipers,. they seem to detect me from 10-15 hex even with my 300 sneak. i just get shot in the head and loose my sneak.
there is no question about that 1hex SD burst is op or not,. i shot a guy for 1014 dmg today,
even normal 1hex burst from grease gun is awsome,. and sneak gets you into range, atleast when there is no high perc character arround.
hth / meele chars saying they cant use SD : your doing it wrong , if i can 1hex Sd burst some, you should be able to aswell,. specially with a sledge or a spear wich has 2hex range.
a good start would be , like solar mentioned - remove Sd effect from 1 hex burst, and then talk about SD burst from range is op or not, i dont think so myself atm, but i need to test it more.
Gavin602:
--- Quote from: Tankboy on January 21, 2012, 03:38:00 AM ---dont forget that sneak has a counter allready, high perception characters.
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Hahah what? I use a 10 percep sniper and a sneaker can easily sneak up from behind and appear outta know where after he gets 3 hexes next to me... I think sneak should be like it was before wipe so there wouldn't be one hex bursting(especially with silent death.)
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