Other > Winter 2011/2012
bg balance
avv:
--- Quote from: pti4ka on January 04, 2012, 04:07:21 pm ---Why people crying that Avenger too powerfull.
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Because they haven't tested it. I admit to have spoken stuff without proper knowledge here. After testing it, it's still pretty strong. Lookit here:
3x brd avenger vs plainBA (tested few weeks ago, don't ask if server is up)
121 105 72 118 115 118 107 119
Pretty solid hundred damage per ranged shot. So doubleburst against snipers will be 200 dmg.
--- Quote ---1st of all it need 40 5mm ammo for ONE burst.
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And gauss needs gauss ammo, still they are around.
--- Quote ---Thirdly snipers will have like 90 AC points so sniper with gauss will be strong enough.
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Even with 90 AC you're easy to hit with 225 BG. AC isn't going to be an issue, but the fact that avenger doubbleburst is actually quite fragile. He can dish out some good damage but he can't be a tank or very crit-resistant.
pti4ka:
--- Quote from: avv on January 04, 2012, 05:50:59 pm ---Because they haven't tested it.
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Yes, right but all will cry without any reason...
--- Quote from: avv on January 04, 2012, 05:50:59 pm ---3x brd avenger vs plainBA (tested few weeks ago, don't ask if server is up)
121 105 72 118 115 118 107 119
Pretty solid hundred damage per ranged shot. So doubleburst against snipers will be 200 dmg.
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That is not much damage for 3brd-build... and that's without Toughness ?
Shonsu:
--- Quote from: Solar on December 14, 2011, 02:09:07 pm ---Only skimmed the posts, so these may have been covered.
I had in my mind that M60 would be walk only and the damage increased - to test the concept of a stronger weapon and no walk.
I still think the ultimate way to balance BG vs bursting smalls is to have some setup time. Say it takes 3 or 4 seconds standing still before a big gun can fire and no time for an assualt rifle. Then you can pop round a corner and burst with ARs but not with heavy machine guns ... but BG would ultimately be the better dps.
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This seems like a really fair reasonable way to balance the two a little bit.
avv:
--- Quote from: pti4ka on January 04, 2012, 06:00:25 pm ---That is not much damage for 3brd-build... and that's without Toughness ?
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No toughness. VS tank build avenger does like this:
3xbrd avunger vs tank: psycho 2x toughness BA
69 64 65 73 69 71 46 37
It's still most raw damage of all. Unless gatling laser does better, haven't tried yet.
pti4ka:
--- Quote from: avv on January 04, 2012, 06:30:30 pm ---No toughness. VS tank build avenger does like this:
3xbrd avunger vs tank: psycho 2x toughness BA
69 64 65 73 69 71 46 37
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Madness :)
I think need to add windicator-minigun in game but make it like gauss (less ammo nubmer and not-craftable gun )
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