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Philosphy of PK
Brick:
Fully agree with above. Gr1m what you have stated is very confusing. Also:
--- Quote from: gr1m099 on November 27, 2011, 09:21:08 PM ---...I generally do not think its right to blacklist people because they kill other players in encounters or at mines...
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How can you not think its right to blacklist people? If for example someone killed a friend of yours, of course you are going to blacklist them, and thus shoot them the next time you see each them.
In fact you did something similar to me. I entered Broken Hills in bluesuit one day and you shot me on sight, for "associating with tttla" (your words). That is blacklisting.
gr1m099:
--- Quote from: Brick on November 28, 2011, 01:22:34 AM ---Fully agree with above. Gr1m what you have stated is very confusing. Also:
How can you not think its right to blacklist people? If for example someone killed a friend of yours, of course you are going to blacklist them, and thus shoot them the next time you see each them.
In fact you did something similar to me. I entered Broken Hills in bluesuit one day and you shot me on sight, for "associating with tttla" (your words). That is blacklisting.
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Now you know how I feel when I enter redding with the intentions of visiting and chatting with other players. So I do not feel bad what so ever, you and your faction do that to me and other players all the time in redding so its good that somebody from your group at least knows how it feels. Feels like shit don't it, so don't expect me to apologize. I mean really why should I let anybody from your faction roam around in my factions town and be nice when you call me outlaw scum, tell me to go mine ores for you and tell me to go up against the wall to be sprayed and the picture posted on your website? And you know what the stupid part of it all is you guys claim to be white knights of the wastelands and can do no wrong what a fucking joke man.
Then you say you like being the good guy in games when in fact you are no different than PK, because you kill other players sansack gear which is not a good thing in any way what so ever morally, so I prefer to just call it PvP nothing more and anti-pk is a crock of shit and the term should not even be used at all. There is no morality in PvP or being good or bad guy, its no different than gangsters shooting each other over drug truf. I mean isn't that what we do in this game shoot each other for who has control over towns? The morality behind this game is no different than gang bangers controlling turf.
And you know what I'm also in a faction that is about protecting the town making it safe for blue suits to mine and generally try to stop people pking each other but we get attacked all the time and get insulted and taunted all the time also and I generally don't cry about it. Because it is a tactic to taunt other players to lure them away from militia.
And you know whats even funnier and hypocritical, this all started because I shot a Samaritan guy who logged off in town and I thought it would be funny to shoot him because he was stupid enough to log off in an unguarded town, but yet you guys attack Samaritans all the time and you post on your website as an outlaw faction and kill them and take their town from all the time when Samaritans were active!
I have even gone to the extent of asking nicely if I can mine and chat in redding with other players, when its not PvP time and you guys are complete dicks so seriously I do not feel bad about this what-so-ever.
But still I'm not 5, you guys aren't my parents you aren't really the authority so who are guys to say that I need to be punished for my actions and deserve to be punished and seriously fuck your stupid wall of justice shit. You know what my honest to god opinion is of the wall of justice, being deserved to be punished for pking, kiss my ass is what I think honestly.
And you prove my point that the game is about friends and factions, everybody is Anti-PK in that aspect, everybody is like that in this game you mess with one bean you mess with the whole burrito. And that also proves my point that anti-pk factions aren't out to kill pkers who kill noobs or people who are not associated with any factions, you guys are just out there to town control and fight other factions nothing more, so I think the white night I'm god divine because I'm anti-pk is complete utter bull shit.
Well actually anti-pk blacklisting isn't so bad in 2238, I was playing life after mk2 and seen and heard stories what anti-pk is like on tlamk2 server and reqiuem which is a lot worse because they have radar and can find people in encounters a lot easier which I'm sure you guys would love to do in this game.
But you know what, this is exactly what I did not want to post and just wanted to keep this a none faction conflict discussion but you had to bring that up.
Wind_Drift:
Yeah... see, it's funny when new players whine and moan.
When veteran players do it it's just pathetic.
Seriously. You should know better.
::)
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Shonsu on November 28, 2011, 01:02:22 AM ---Ok... so it's ok if you kill random people you've never met before but it's not ok for someone to attackk you for that? I really don't see your logic.
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I think he is saying it's stupid to kill people just because they killed/kill other people. It's not about the action in this case, but the reason for the action that really steams him up, and I have to agree.
But whatever. People will do as they please if they want/can :).
Brick:
--- Quote from: gr1m099 on November 28, 2011, 02:04:37 AM ---Now you know how I feel when I enter redding with the intentions of visiting and chatting with other players... ra de ra ...
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I'm not sure where all this came from (or then again im not suprised...), but either way you missed my point completely.
You stated that you don't think blacklisting is right, and that people shouldn't do it. I am stating that blacklisting is a natural response to anything someone does, whether in game or not. Just the simple act of knowing someone kills on sight and that if encountered should be fired upon, signifies blacklisting.
All I was trying to do was dispute your point, I really couldn't care less that you killed me in 'your' town, and everything you just said had nothing to do with anything that I stated.
--- Quote from: gr1m099 on November 28, 2011, 02:04:37 AM ---...so don't expect me to apologize...
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Actually that example I gave, you did later apologize for. No take-backs.
The point still stands however, that you did infact blacklist me.
--- Quote from: gr1m099 on November 28, 2011, 02:04:37 AM ---But you know what, this is exactly what I did not want to post and just wanted to keep this a none faction conflict discussion but you had to bring that up.
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The problem is with this topic, faction conflicts are a part of it, and if anything has stemmed from faction conflicts, and thus it is difficult in talking about one without the other.
..Though it does seem as if you were the first to bring faction conflicts into the conversation..
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