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Philosphy of PK
gr1m099:
To start off I made this thread to discuss pk and anti-pk and for now I well not discuss my opinion on it as for anybody that knows or has talked to me about the subject already knows my opinion on anti-pk and pk.
Player Killer, yes the player killer or known as PK. And anti-player killer or known as anti-pk. Probably the best 2 known groups in the game. People generally associate these two terms into people's play style.
The Pker, the guy who likes to kill random people for various reasons. Some reasons include bordem, because he wasn't tagged green, or because its funny to annoy people.
The Anti-PKer, hates getting killed by random people in encounters, at the mines or when entering an unguarded town. Generally doesn't shoot random players on sight and doesn't find any humor what so ever in killing other players.
But why has it come down to this classifying players into 2 categories. Is it that we are taught good and evil, law vs outlaw. Why is it in our human nature to think of things in terms of 2, does player killing really reflect one moral judgement into right and wrong? Is anti-pk truly right and pk evil and wrong? Why is that people generally think like this when it come to this game?
Johnnybravo:
Yes it is really that simple, translated to live world. However you don't have to feel shame for playing evil character in roleplaying game. The game have very few rules so there is no moral problem in killing players even just for fun.
What would be wrong if somebody was "PK" IRL. (NPCs are nearly viewed as sentient beings, so they are something beneath animals or whatever, even though they might be represented as humanoids or humans in game)
Wind_Drift:
It seems that being killed by another player for no discernible reason can be the most infuriating occurrence in the game. The delineation between the two groups probably evolved naturally due to Player Killing eliciting such a strong reaction from those who have "suffered" it.
When unfriendly NPC's or other critters attack you on sight it's easy to shrug it off, they have no choice in the matter. It's how the game was coded. However when another player attacks you, it's apparent that it was a conscious decision made by the person controlling their character. Some players can shrug it off, others can't. It feels personal to them, for understandable reasons. I wouldn't be upset at a tree limb if it fell on my head, but I would be fucking pissed if my wife hit me in the face with a baseball bat without provocation. There is obviously transference from real life into the game for some players.
I think where the mindset really differs between PK and APK is how the act is viewed. Raiders, Highwaymen, Floaters, and other critters are simply game obstacles to present the player with a challenge to overcome in an encounter. I tend to view PK's (myself included) as an extension of that role, whereas those of the APK mindset obviously don't see it that way. I've had discussions with adamantly APK players who have told me that they feel PK's are terrible people in real life as well, and their play style is only a reflection of that.
I don't feel that either group is wrong, it's just a different point of view. At the end of the day, it gives each of us purpose and drives gameplay forward.
I know I've painted with a fairly broad brush there, but I do understand that each player is different. We all have different motivations and ideas about the game, and no two players are the same. Some are very extreme one way or the other, while some are more middle of the road. In these conversations, it is usually those on the extreme ends of the spectrum that are made example of, so it's the easiest context to discuss it in. I'm not attempting to pigeonhole people firmly into anything.
That being said, I really can only speak for myself with any real validity. The above is all opinion based on observation, and in many cases is totally inaccurate.
avv:
Pk is the true powergaming method. It's easier, safer and more profitable to shoot every unknown player. You get more loot and die less often.
Antipk is basically about putting your ideologies ahead of the gameplay benefit. It's harder but more rewarding in terms of enjoyment.
Just a reminder: Antipk groups have people inside them who have a mindset that would suit pk group better but because all their contacts are inside antipk gangs, he can't just leave the team. The others surely know this but because it's just a game, they won't kick him out if he's okay as a person and nice to hang out with. I'm sure pk groups have people too who would suit antipk team better but they have the same problem.
gr1m099:
I would just like to add, from my experience, that people who are labeled PK generally do it because they find it funny to annoy other people in the game. People in the PK spectrum are actually normal people in real lifes who have everyday jobs or go to school. People make more of out pkers than what they really are. Its a harsh world its survival, and PKers add that the survival theme.
I know I said I wouldn't post my opinion but I feel that I want to now. I think its all bull shit, I think its more about you group up with a faction and kill other faction members which is still PKing. I mean from my experience if I'm on alt that is known to anti-pk factions, and they know its me they well kill me because they know I am with an enemy faction, and usually works the other way around. I think anti-pk and pk is the same thing, they both kill players and I think the term PvP player is a better term.
The game is more so if you are not a friend in my faction or an ally of my faction I'm going to shoot you. In this case which is why I would recommend a solo player to find a faction as soon as possible and I recommend new players to join up with the noob helper factions and then decide when they are ready for PvP to pick a faction.
You know what my experience with PKers was when I first started this game, I started to make a list of everybody who wronged me, and I used to post in IRC phony bounties and not pay people because I thought it would be funny to have a bunch of people go after somebody. From this experience I met a guy on IRC who got me into PvP and all the people who PK me I ended up meeting them and being friends with them. After meeting them I ended up having a lot of fun playing with them and doing pvp action with them. But then shit happened but that's whole other story.
So for the most part the people who PK generally do it for LOlz or find it funny and get a good laugh. Its like a practical joker, the person who gets pranked its not funny to but the guy pulling the prank finds it hilarious.
Also I wanted to post this video for your viewing pleasure which reminds me of the argument of PK vs Anti-PK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaubVlhNK4&feature=related
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