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Mercs, are unbalanced?
Johnnybravo:
I guess people were supposed to use them. But apparently it was generally not liked so many turned they charisma to 1 and focused on their very own character. Some people can't just understand that and spit insults at this group. But honestly people either have charisma on their characters because they feel they need it (eg. not knowing the game and starting is using only their knowledge from Fallout), or because they want companions, or because they feel it's only right to have it (RP).
That makes me wonder how this will develop, because the groups are not likely to change, but it's possible players will shift between them.
Ulrek:
I always take 3 CH on any character i can, just because i don't always have a friend to help me add all my alts to my base..
Other then that, 1 black dude merc can ruin someones day if you do it right, or a ghoul with a shotgun.
-Ulrek-
Michaelh139:
Mercs reaction time is no different from any other npc's, you cannot do anything about this without making every npc with slow reaction time, (how you call "human") and it's not even plausible fix, because such a factor varies from person to person greatly.
They can leave encounters quickly, being in combat timer, without merc leader in combat, because how would they operate if this were the case? Im walking cross worldmap, get forced into encounter, raiders, run out of encounter, and zomg.... my 2 assault rifle mercs aren't with me anymore because they weren't smart enough to run away like me.
Besides that, you obviously never used one of these builds before, so i'll fill you in, on the strifes such a build causes, compared to all other builds.
1. Mercs cost a fucking shitload. Especially since prices are global, and every buy makes the price go up.
2. Mercs are inefficient really... They don't have any perks, they use equipment and ammo like crazy, the best BG merc uses a leather jacket.... and best laser or melee is metal armor.... Hardly tough.
3. You pretty much gimp your actual "Character" when you choose 9 charisma... Try fighting 1vs1 against any other char that is combat 1 charisma. Good luck.
4. As mentioned earlier... transportation. Every merc leader either must have a highwayman or a hummer, else they'll have to take several trips wherever they go.
I think/hope you get the idea.
p.s. you're not the first to make this kind of topic.
Savager:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on November 10, 2011, 04:25:26 AM ---They can leave encounters quickly, being in combat timer, without merc leader in combat, because how would they operate if this were the case? Im walking cross worldmap, get forced into encounter, raiders, run out of encounter, and zomg.... my 2 assault rifle mercs aren't with me anymore because they weren't smart enough to run away like me.
Besides that, you obviously never used one of these builds before, so i'll fill you in, on the strifes such a build causes, compared to all other builds.
1. Mercs cost a fucking shitload. Especially since prices are global, and every buy makes the price go up.
2. Mercs are inefficient really... They don't have any perks, they use equipment and ammo like crazy, the best BG merc uses a leather jacket.... and best laser or melee is metal armor.... Hardly tough.
3. You pretty much gimp your actual "Character" when you choose 9 charisma... Try fighting 1vs1 against any other char that is combat 1 charisma. Good luck.
4. As mentioned earlier... transportation. Every merc leader either must have a highwayman or a hummer, else they'll have to take several trips wherever they go.
I think/hope you get the idea.
p.s. you're not the first to make this kind of topic.
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1) There is a lot of ways of making caps for buying the mercs, and just from killing 1 player from trap u get 20k from BA, 10-15K from weapon, plus SS, etc. So every player = 1 merc
2) They dont have any perks? WTF are u talking about, they have imba critical chances, how many times the plasma mercs can melt u down to ashes?
3) U are talking about something U DONt have any idea. BTW "merc leader expert", builds are maked whit 6 charisma, just for u know.
4) Every gang have AT LEAST 2-4 hummers or highwaymen per player.
We are not talking about prices, we are not talking about charisma here, we are talking about the imbalanced reaction time, and the battle timer. So, if u want to talk about prices/charisma/hummers go and make another topic.
Slaver Snipe:
Your very entertaining Savager.
1) Your retarded if you think every player is worth 1 merc, so that bluesuit really paid for a merc? Or those lowbies with leather armor? (Much more common than someone worth 20k+)
2) They don't have perks. It's a fact, don't speak about things you do not know.
3) Your merc build may have 6 CHA, that does not mean everyone's does. Not everyone likes to rely on drugs.
4) Not every merc leader is a member of a gang.
We are talking about charisma, prices and "imbalanced" reaction time and the battle timer. (You creating this thread doesn't mean you can stop us from doing such a thing. Especially when you didn't even have the brains to try and say OMG THIS ISN'T ABOUT IF MERCS ARE UNBALANCED OR NOT BUT ONLY ABOUT ONE CERTAIN PART OF MERCS) If you read several threads you would know there are massive changes to mercs upcoming INCLUDING changing their battle timer so you can't artillery drop and leave to WM with your mercs with you.
Always, With Love,
Slaver Snipe
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