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Gorlak:
Disheartening to see so many try and justify cheating. Really.

avv:

--- Quote from: Gorlak on November 04, 2011, 12:35:23 PM ---Disheartening to see so many try and justify cheating. Really.

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It's not matter of black and white. In some cases cheating is closer to civil disobedience rather than serious crime against the society.
Besides cheating also shows that people want to play this game and are enthralled by it so much that they bother to fabricate cheats.

Swinglinered:

--- Quote from: T-888 on October 27, 2011, 09:42:19 PM ---Yes , it is possible. When i was new to this game i even managed to trade my stuff between alts by leaving it in ncr , some shelf then reloging and picking it up , but that is extreme and it should be changed.

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A lot of people are doing this.

The cat and mouse of hiding things and wondering during relog wait time if some scavenger finds it is a regular part of the game, for some.

Also, forgetting stuff or even finding other people's stuff in your favorite hiding place.

It adds flavor. Minigame/metagame hybrid.

Oh well, im off to fill Gordon's Gas Station with Ghoul Snipers.



Ulrek:

--- Quote from: Gorlak on November 04, 2011, 12:35:23 PM ---Disheartening to see so many try and justify cheating. Really.

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You know Gorlak, say somebody wants to add his other characters to a base, he either needs to trust one of the many random possible base rapists with some level of access to his base, or duel log, you either trust people who probably won't even be on when you need them even if they aren't thieves, or you can duel log for a brief moment and save yourself hours of time, in that case, it's more of a player created work around to something the game -should- already have, just because it's a pain in the ass.

What about a guy who wants to build a slave army? he cant transfer slaves to logged off characters, so he needs someone to login to every alt one by one, and actually be selfless in helping him, or he can duel log.. again, wasting one of your friends time to suit your needs, or "cheating", which one is actually worse?

Doing something that effects only you, but requires a nice friends time he could do his own thing with, or do it all by yourself, for yourself, i don't duel log myself, since really i don't have much use for it, other then those two examples, but still, you have a choice, which would you personally pick?

Duel logging and actually using both characters for something at the same time on the other hand, that's a different story, you're actually using two characters at once, not just briefly logging in on both to add a new alt to level with.

Oh, and on a final note, anyone who thinks loners don't need bases is wrong, a base is actually more useful to a loner then a big faction, since the larger the group, the easier it is to get stuff, and most people don't even remember to login to refresh their tents, and they go poof, i've had a few of my tents go poof because i forgot to refresh everyone on time each month, so have my friends, i doubt TTTLA would have trouble getting new stuff from nothing, few mausers, few snipers, one dead unity patrol and then you just go craft some armor after you've got rockets and ammo, maybe a few new guns to make, but that's it, you've got men to gather, men to guard the shit, and men to use the stuff, you've got a mobile army, stockpiling just saves time.

-Ulrek-

Nightkin:

--- Quote ---(people yelling they are TTTLA while slaughtering miners is also a frequent thing)

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