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Why there are not enough players?
Marko69:
I jump by from time to time. Fonline won't die :)
I'd love to make an advertising video, but im short on requierment's for it, low pc spec. If someone could ask people from mmohut or some similar review site. I just hope it won't end like angry nintendo nerd. :D
What you think people who never heard anything about this game and do reviews for mmo games would say? :D
T-888:
--- Quote from: ElSlayer on October 14, 2011, 07:42:40 PM ---I've stopped playing FOnline about year ago because of awful balance in weapons.
The only thing is really good was BG (LSW, Rocket Launcher) and mutants party.
And I hate'em both. Just plain dislike.
Top tier armors have high energy resistance, SG are just plain shitty peashooters (e.g. FN FAL - the TOP CRAFT SG RIFLE - that have extremely rare ammo and did lower DPS than BG).
Aimed fire is whole crap. In real time fight you have to click on the enemy, then choose eyes (or head, or whatever), while that guy with rocket launcher... OH MY GOD A ROCKET! BANG! Sliding away... standing up... and... he hides away behind the obstacle, reloading and... HERE AGAIN! LOOK! SAME THING! BANG!
Well... you've understood.
In TB mode... well yeah sometimes (about 8-12% of time) I have couple of nice crits with my plasma rifle. Most of time I don't.
So when I standing in wasteland against guy with LSW - it is just plain DPS competition. He needs 3-4 bursts to kill me and making 2 per turn. Well I'm shooting him too. For... 40 damage per shot.
Also funny thing that enemy (especially in Real-Time) can just turn away his eyes from you, so you have shoot head - and the difference between shooting eyes and head is damn huge.
I don't see reason for making 3D graphics while there are such flaws in the game balance. When I heard of developers plans about implementing new graphics - I've left. I love tasty pixelized graphics of old games. I liked graphics of Fallout. But 3D models in the game are looking... just awful (argh those rats and desert stalkers... yuck!).
Now (after about a year) I've came to this forum to see what's new. And what I see? NOTHING!
No balance updates, no new features. Only grapichs coming soon. It doesn't makes gameplay better.
So I won't play it.
That is *MY* reasons "why there are not enough players".
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huh ? I will make this short.
LSW and RL is are still top used weapons , mutants disabled , snipers are gonna be nerfed next wipe so i don't know what are you talking about , plasma rifle is the ultimate insta kill each second shot , when lazor rifle hits me two bypasses for 130+ then you can whine about high lazer resistance all day long , lets not talk about KO's. 3D graphics will allow to implement many nice things in game witch of course you don't know about because your too stupid to read. I guess when you did play , things like aimed binds didn't exist , i feel sorry for you cry more.
bye bye casual player go back to some hell00 ki11y online because you can't read or play the game again.
Analysis.
Those people who left didn't do it for good enough reasons.
or maybe those people are just dumb ? Since this all is just a big beta test , they didn't like beta so they left ? huhhha.we???wqe ......... don't make sense ... stupidity is frying my brains.....
It's like new player starts to play counter strike " OOHHH noooes i no like AK 47 i quit "
ElSlayer:
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM --- your too stupid
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i feel sorry for you
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cry more.
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bye bye casual player
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you can't read or play the game again.
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those people are just dumb ?
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don't make sense
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stupidity is frying my brains.....
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Oh yeah, I forgot to say about friendly community that respects your opinion and builds a constructive dialogue.
Anyway...
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---LSW and RL is are still top used weapons
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Yes, as I said - no changes here, same balance flaws. You've just confirmed what I've said.
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---mutants disabled
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No balance fix, just disable and done with it. Nice way to do things.
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---snipers are gonna be nerfed next wipe
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Yeah, let's nerf snipers because "LSW and RL is are still top used weapons ". Good logic.
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---so i don't know what are you talking about , plasma rifle is the ultimate insta kill each second shot
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Oh yeah, EACH SECOND SHOT. ALL THE TIME. INSTANT KILLS.
Stop telling lies and giving fake statistics. Be realist.
Result of multiplying crit chance (in the head ofc, cuz all pro players won't show their eyes to you) on chance to score a bypassing crit will give you other numbers. And if you didn't got bypass, plasma damage type get lowered to pathetic values against top tier armor (60/7 DR/DT against 40/8 normal damage type for BoS CA).
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---, when lazor rifle hits me two bypasses for 130+ then you can whine about high lazer resistance all day long
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Same thing about laser type, but resistance is higher and damage of weapons is lower (70/8 for BoS CA ). Chance to get two bypasses in a row is minimal.
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---, lets not talk about KO's.
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There are special perks against KO from aimed shot.
Again chance is quite low, while BG have stable damage. Also it has chance to crit too.
But rocket launcher always knocks you down.
Statistics can tell us more. You're saying that snipers are so cool, but why then BGs is top used weapons? The answer is obvious - they are more reliable and are just better in most cases.
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM --- 3D graphics will allow to implement many nice things in game witch of course you don't know about because your too stupid to read.
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You're wrong, I've read topics about 3D-graphics. But still I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know how DOING GRAPHICS can handle balance issues.
A few examples of "nice things" perhaps?
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---I guess when you did play , things like aimed binds didn't exist , i feel sorry for you cry more.
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I've been watching to every patch note since I've left the game but didn't noticed anything about binds.
Can you tell me more about it?
--- Quote from: T-888 on October 14, 2011, 08:29:05 PM ---Since this all is just a big beta test, they didn't like beta so they left ?
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People will leave game they dislike. It's obvious. Especially if there won't be any significant progress in development.
Slaver Snipe:
I like how you say you see nothing new Elslayer, yet you mention that you have to click, then aim for eyes to do aimed shots which is not true anymore. Funnily enough on this forum most people complain about crits being overpowered so maybe you should try playing again instead of making judgments about nothing being new when they are a few new things here and there. You say that removing mutants is bad compared to balancing them (paraphrased you of course) Well if you read about upcoming change maybe you would see that removing the mutants was needed to stop players from doing arty strikes from WM. Many upcoming changes to the followers system so you shouldn't say they "No balance fix, just disable and done with it. Nice way to do things." It takes time to alter things so please read more and then you won't sound so ignorant talking about things which you have no knowledge of.
Why exactly did you cry about the fn-fal? Did you really expect a medium sized rifle would out dps a minigun? Are you insane? Yes, it would be nice if the game was fully balanced but that takes an insane amount of tweaking to actually accomplish. Dev's arn't doing any of the work on the 3D so you really shouldn't complain there as that doesn't take their time away and when it is implemented many new things will be possible with player characters. I don't know where you think KO's are quite rare as when i play a critical build I get them every 4-5 shots at least and when you get the first one chances are you beat that player.
T-888:
--- Quote from: ElSlayer on October 14, 2011, 10:15:08 PM ---Oh yeah, I forgot to say about friendly community that respects your opinion and builds a constructive dialogue.
Anyway...
Yes, as I said - no changes here, same balance flaws. You've just confirmed what I've said.
No balance fix, just disable and done with it. Nice way to do things.
Yeah, let's nerf snipers because "LSW and RL is are still top used weapons ". Good logic.
Oh yeah, EACH SECOND SHOT. ALL THE TIME. INSTANT KILLS.
Stop telling lies and giving fake statistics. Be realist.
Result of multiplying crit chance (in the head ofc, cuz all pro players won't show their eyes to you) on chance to score a bypassing crit will give you other numbers. And if you didn't got bypass, plasma damage type get lowered to pathetic values against top tier armor (60/7 DR/DT against 40/8 normal damage type for BoS CA).
Same thing about laser type, but resistance is higher and damage of weapons is lower (70/8 for BoS CA ). Chance to get two bypasses in a row is minimal.
There are special perks against KO from aimed shot.
Again chance is quite low, while BG have stable damage. Also it has chance to crit too.
But rocket launcher always knocks you down.
Statistics can tell us more. You're saying that snipers are so cool, but why then BGs is top used weapons? The answer is obvious - they are more reliable and are just better in most cases.
You're wrong, I've read topics about 3D-graphics. But still I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know how DOING GRAPHICS can handle balance issues.
A few examples of "nice things" perhaps?
I've been watching to every patch note since I've left the game but didn't noticed anything about binds.
Can you tell me more about it?
People will leave game they dislike. It's obvious. Especially if there won't be any significant progress in development.
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My nerves can't handle this.
Alright listen up , if you haven't noticed all three weapons skills are widely used each has it's own role , advantages and flaws , for example you won't see much EW builds in TC due to inferior range not damage , but everywhere else for example in reno EW builds are pretty much superior to everything if you add few big gunners to cover them , then again only big gunners is a bad team composition that lacks the support of snipers EW or SG , it's vise versa.
Most of people here understand why snipers have to be nerfed , KO's , instant kills , knockdowns , bypasses occur too often has unreliable but good damage in overall due to bypasses and for example sniper rifle with the universal 223 ammo that is good against pretty much all armor. Have you ever played in a town control versus a well placed sniper line that has gauss in it ? Gauss maybe a bad example , drop the gauss just a sniper line ? Then again make some 223 pistol build , go reno , guys with ba and avenger will seem like a cakewalk to you.
Just go play hinkley for a while when you will face a proper plasma tank or p90 tank , don't come crying at forum. I won't say more since you obviously lack experience.
It's really hard to notice the difference between a character without and with stonewall , it's really hard man.
Go in fonline2238 and there is an option binds , you bind eyes on key D for example , if you press D ingame you will always do aimed shots without having to click on eyes all time , that's the simple way to explain.
I'm not gonna start talking about 3D , read it yourself a lot of topics about it.
I think your just a small time pvp'er that doesn't notice the balance as most of the server players.
btw read the patch notes again , maybe you will learn to read.
Slaver snipe told a lot too.
The fuck are you arguing about things you don't know , some theory craft about some statistics without any real knowledge or experience , go read forum.
oh btw you really left the server for dumb reasons
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