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Mutilator's guide to HTH builds
Roachor:
--- Quote from: _Youkai_ on February 15, 2010, 05:57:49 am ---Hmm I'm sorry, +9 from what? :-[
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6 from the perk, 4 from heavy handed and 5 from having 10 str.
virus341:
--- Quote from: Roachor on February 14, 2010, 07:33:12 pm ---You don't get the additional + to damage and crit bonus from using named attacks like haymaker and piercing fist when using unarmed weapons. So when you use brass knuckles you do less damage because they do 2-5 so it lowers the amount you do significantly. Power fist does 12-24 so it outweighs the 7 dmg you lose from using the item. The bonus to hth on your character sheet does stack with it though so it should be possible to do like 27-39 per hit with hth damage x 3, heavy handed and the str bonus. As for fast shot, its affected more things since last wipe.
Another tip for low level players, if you equip a rock and scroll to the punch attack it will take 1 ap less to punch, so you can hit 10 times a turn at lvl 1. This is less beneficial at high levels but at the start you should be able to kill most critters.
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Ok, no bonus dmg and crit if using any weapons, and what about armor penetration? (or equipping even power fists disables any "special attacks" like palm strike etc.?)
and....where can i get rock? :D
_Youkai_:
--- Quote from: Roachor on February 15, 2010, 07:35:33 am ---6 from the perk, 4 from heavy handed and 5 from having 10 str.
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Ty ;D
--- Quote ---where are you from youkai? i notice that is ergo proxy ^^
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Brazil. And few people knows this anime (i guess) :P
Archvile:
Every unarmed weapon works like an ordinary PUNCH attack. Not a STRONG PUNCH or any other kind.
--- Quote ---Power fist does 12-24 so it outweighs the 7 dmg you lose from using the item. The bonus to hth on your character sheet does stack with it though so it should be possible to do like 27-39 per hit with hth damage x 3, heavy handed and the str bonus.
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Bonus Melee Damage adds only to your max damage. So with 15 BMD you can have 12-39 with Power Fist or 20-55 with Mega Power Fist.
BHtHD adds 0-2 damage, that is just 1 damage more on average.
Raegann:
Nice guide, Mutilator!
I just wanna ask some questions you probably stumbled upon during your tests.
With 1 PE and let's say 6 STR, how much throwing skill should I have to throw sufficiently?
Also, the 130 maximum usable value is it same for both melee and unarmed?
Mega power fist and Ripper are both penetrating?
Is there a reason to prefer melee to unarmed or it's only a "visual" choice (speaking about non-crit build, 10 AP, fast shot)?
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