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[Wallace]

1 I've heard that you need to talk to a guy at bunker at NCR San Fran or Den to join the brotherhood of steel but there is no such guy in NCR nor SF - so how to do it? (or any other way to get armorer 3 except joining enclave?)

2 my karma with NCR and VC went to -100. Then it changed to -99 and then to -96
but i dunno what causes the relations increasment. Can you help me at this? (can't entirely find myself during this era)

[RavenousRat]

Probably you FAed NPCs who belonged to that faction, it raises reputation.

About joining, I think it's impossible for now.

[Wallace]

1 Forgot to add: i used FA on NCR caravan guard but that didn't rise any of my karma with them

2 so how do i become armorer 3 now? Via enclave?

[RavenousRat]

Then you killed some raiders or muties or something.

Looks like. You'll have to join enclave just to get profession.

[Wallace]

1 so basicly a crafter who (almost) doeasn't fight can't rise his karma?

2 if i join enclave will NCR shoot me on sight?

[RavenousRat]

Trading, FAing inside city (FAing guards, traders, etc.)

Yes, and BoS, and, I think, muties too.


Edit:
Just sell armors/guns/ammo to kind doctor in NCR and he'll be so happy that your rep could raise to +900.

Don't sell cheap items to Sha Enin, this moron raises "Free Traders" reputation, what is useless.

[Wallace]

Wow!

Selling Metal armor mk2 to doc raised my karma for almost 250!

Now i'll just make everybody love me before i join the enclave and they wont be killing me on sight!

Thanks!

[RavenousRat]

No, they will kill you because you're Enclave member, regardless of your reputation.

Also sell him looted miniguns/fn fals, it'll raise your rep almost instantly. You can go from -1400 to +900 for 1-2 encounters NCR vs muties.

[Fizzle]

Oh btw your rep will go up after awhile, takes a really long time
i killed president tandi once and i was -1124 with ncr and finaly about 1 1/2 later maybe a 1 week it was neutral again.

[Wallace]

(oh RavenousRat i meant that they wont kill me because of fact of joining and leaving... didn't mention that fact because joining and leaving enclave right afterwards still costs you massive amount of reputation)

1 So basicaly if i join the Enclave and wait 10 days i'll be neutral again? (after i leave them right afterwards - and if i do so could i join them again in the future?)

2 To whom do i have to sell (having only 2 CH) within VC and Broken hills to rise my reputation in these areas?

[Fizzle]

(oh RavenousRat i meant that they wont kill me because of fact of joining and leaving... didn't mention that fact because joining and leaving enclave right afterwards still costs you massive amount of reputation)

1 So basicaly if i join the Enclave and wait 10 days i'll be neutral again? (after i leave them right afterwards - and if i do so could i join them again in the future?)

2 To whom do i have to sell (having only 2 CH) within VC and Broken hills to rise my reputation in these areas?

I dont know how long it'll take before you become neutral, i know it took a while for my brother when he joined the enclave but he did leave after he got his armorer maxed.
also you should check out this link for the traders. -http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Merchants

[Wallace]

Useful stuff!

The question is: does Zaius have a barter screen?

(if not then i guess i can only drink a beer and then sell something to Broken Hill's merchants)