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Roleplaying in FOnline:2238
Grommok:
--- Quote from: Amrok on September 24, 2011, 08:04:06 PM ---Not easy, I agree.
A full explanation would be off-topic and I am not sure my english will follow ^^
Basicaly, you setup the game with mechanics that force or invite players in some way.
Some of them are "world-rules", so they force/delimit players action. Some other just impulse elements that will fit as RP support for players who want to do so.
Lets take an example that's brutal enough to show the line while staying at "surface mechanics":
- Add perma death on the 2238, and players will change their behavior.
- Remove magic case, players will change their behavior.
- Disable ammo crafting, players will change their behavior.
- etc...
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Ah, i've understood now.
I think that permadeath should be added, while "ammo crafting" should remain. Actually, it's easier to make a bullet than to build a rocket launcher out of junk, dont you think?
For those who think that "permadeath" is a bit... hard for a MMORPG, that would encourage alting, and so on... i agree. However it's much harder to be saved by a tribal after being nuked, dont you think? Maybe, there should be a sort of "luck roll", that will give you chances of being saved after dying. (still you cant be saved after being melted)
Surf:
--- Quote from: Reiniat on September 24, 2011, 05:10:46 PM ---For stuff like that i feel like i ve never understand about properly RP. How can you just create another char and then BOOM!!! you are acompletely new person and everybody talks to you nicely. But maybe with other char youre a PK and kill inocent guys, and of course there are tons of alts for craft, ghater, farm, etc. wich obey to the powerbuild chars. And you can join to other factions, to enemy factions. That sounds nice for RP and for sime play. But nobody can divide his mine in sealed compartiments for each "char personality" even if we are in other char WE STILL BEING THE SAME GUY, with same personality, feelings, etc.
I always felt all the alts stuff like a big bunch of hipocrits.
How can you just create a crafter for make stuff for you pk, apk, gang, RP, loner etc. builds, and wait for not to be killed by the actions of the prymary characters?
why we would'nt diference truly newbies of new alts?
how can we acept many alts joining to diferent gangs,while our bases are getting raped because that?
How can we kill everybody on sight with a PK build and wait to not be killed while we swap to our RP or crafter alt (and even complain about the impossibility of RP)?
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JovankaB:
--- Quote ---How can you just create another char and then BOOM!!! you are acompletely new person and everybody talks to you nicely.?
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Go play Quake, you won't have such dilemmas there.
jonny rust:
--- Quote from: Reiniat on September 24, 2011, 05:10:46 PM ---For stuff like that i feel like i ve never understand about properly RP. How can you just create another char and then BOOM!!! you are acompletely new person and everybody talks to you nicely. But maybe with other char youre a PK and kill inocent guys, and of course there are tons of alts for craft, ghater, farm, etc. wich obey to the powerbuild chars. And you can join to other factions, to enemy factions. That sounds nice for RP and for sime play. But nobody can divide his mine in sealed compartiments for each "char personality" even if we are in other char WE STILL BEING THE SAME GUY, with same personality, feelings, etc.
How can you just create a crafter for make stuff for you pk, apk, gang, RP, loner etc. builds, and wait for not to be killed by the actions of the prymary characters?
why we would'nt diference truly newbies of new alts?
how can we acept many alts joining to diferent gangs,while our bases are getting raped because that?
How can we kill everybody on sight with a PK build and wait to not be killed while we swap to our RP or crafter alt (and even complain about the impossibility of RP)?
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I think that if you look at the posts that answer the questions in the original post you'll see that most RP'rs here would rather only play with one character. And to answer you're questions; no, its not easy or possible for most of us to truely RP as dozens of different characters.
I Alt as little as possible. That means 1 character, the rest are pre-wipe-build-tests who usually don't see the light of day. I only make characters that I feel I can identify with in order to RP well. When I get bored with one or just want to start another I give the character a death which is permanent.
The real problem with alting is each player on 2238 being a one man economy (its what destroys our economy so quickly) because each character is only in demand to his alts and not to other players. Not only does that ruin the waste economy but it also severely inhibits roleplay.
Imagine if we all had 1 character. If you decide to build a PvP dedicated character then you would really on other PEOPLE not other characters for trade, crafting, drugs, repairs etc. All of your actions would come back to you with no alt to hide behind (hypothetically of course, this is not an attack on you) and so you would need to weigh your actions carefully before executing them. A player killer would be shitting in his own house If he started killing people around his neighborhood as he might need some of them at some point. If we needed to interact based on our differences, professions, and abilities the game would be better and RP would happen more as a result.
But right now, everyman is an island and in a lot of ways this might as well be a single player game, with a multiplayer versus option that turns itself on sometimes.
And your right about alting not being good for RP, and I agree that doing it would be hypocritical.
Eternauta:
--- Quote from: jonny rust on September 25, 2011, 06:37:23 PM ---And your right about alting not being good for RP, and I agree that doing it would be hypocritical.
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Alting might not go well with RP, I guess we agree there. But saying that a guy who alts and plays different roles with each character is hypocritical, that probably just means you have no idea what RP means (which I don't think is your case jonny).
True roleplaying demands serious and mature players, they can play different roles with different characters without a problem. As said countless times, RP is about being the character, not yourself.
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