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Re: Redding
« Reply #105 on: October 03, 2011, 06:37:22 pm »

Holy Spaghetti Monster, this "CoA are cowards" argument has gone so overboard I'm surprised it hasn't made a full keelhauling and come back to the other side yet. Actually, let's bring it there, and go through this stupidity with at least an ounce of methodology.

It is said that CoA suddenly "chickened out" and only captures towns at 3am gmt, when before they used to do TC much earlier. The argument is that this must be because they are too afraid to lose the fight to even try.

Maybe it looks like a compelling argument, but only if you don't know anything about the circumstances. So let me bring the rest of you trololos here up to speed with some down to earth fact and logic, so that for once you can see the opinion you're shoving down your throats before you take destroyer's word for it that it's makes you look clever.

For the past several months, the combined forces of C88 and TTTLA have fluctuated heavily from day to day and from hour to hour. During european daytime, on the weekdays, we have usually only a handful of people online, if anybody at all, and the numbers are usually growing toward the evening and culminating at night around 1 or 2 am. The exact reason for this I don't know, but the situation have been the same for much longer than TSAR's recent redding project.

The thing that has changed, however, is the number of enemies of TTTLA and C88. During the summer there was a substantial drought in TC, basically our only enemies were BHH, and we were able to fight them with relatively small numbers. Since TSAR took Redding, however, our enemies have been more numerous. Of course we can't attack an alliance of 20 people if we only have 10 ourselves, especially if you have the 500hp merc militia that is the trademark of TSAR.

Nobody will attack unless there's at least a small chance of winning, this is nothing unique to TTTLA or C88 or any other faction. A fight can be fun even if you lose, but if the numbers are too skewed, the fight will be too one sided to be enjoyable. For this reason we have been forced to wait until the numbers have equalised. The exact moment this happens depends on several factors, including day to day variations, but if the militia is strong you need at least 10 people to try something. If additionally there are enemies to defend, you need more. So when TSAR holds the town, we are forced to wait until we have enough people to strike. It's not our fault that this usually doesn't happen until after midnight, when TSAR is starting to go to bed and CoA get more people online due to people from other time zones coming home from work.

The fact of the matter is that the recent TSAR, BBS, Hawk and Rogue alliance regularly have more than 20 people online, a number that CoA haven't been able to reach in over a month. We are severely outnumbered during the day, just as you are sometimes outnumbered during the night. You are the ones complaining about late attacks, but the same logic can be applied in reverse: you are the ones attacking too early. Are you enjoying the PvE, retaking the town from us each day before we have enough numbers to counter you? You are such cowards for attacking us when there's no chance for an equal fight, trolololo.

It's beyond me how you can't see the symmetry in this situation. You must be either completely retarded or so convinced that you're right to begin with that you put even young earth creationists to shame in the blind faith contest.
Re: Redding
« Reply #106 on: October 03, 2011, 07:11:14 pm »

Why do you even post if you haven't read at least most of the posts ? It's boring to quote your le wall of text.
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Re: Redding
« Reply #107 on: October 03, 2011, 09:03:02 pm »

Why do you even post if you haven't read at least most of the posts ? It's boring to quote your le wall of text.

Did you realize that its ALSO boring read your wall of complains? I am not on any side, but come on guys ...  :-X
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Re: Redding
« Reply #108 on: October 03, 2011, 09:23:34 pm »

@Lidae
The hilarious part is that I've been to a few TC attacks where we didn't even buy militia after liberating the town, hoping to get some action. Didn't really happen. And besides it's not like we can't talk this through and decide that for example we don't use more than 10 people at any given time and don't buy any militia... right? But that wouldn't go too well with your "we must win even if we have to capture the cities at 3 AM" mentality, now would it? And saying that we come too early... dude, ever heard of circadian rhythm? No sane person is going to wait till the morning to humour your dreams of glory and no matter how elaborate rhetoric you use to justify it, European players waiting to challenge their opposition till that time for whatever reasons are going to get laughed at, hard.

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Re: Redding
« Reply #109 on: October 03, 2011, 11:01:12 pm »

You're wrong Nice_Boat. The hilarious part is not that.

The hilarious part, and all the old Fonline players know that, is that tomorrow, the situation will change. Players and gangs don't like powerfull gangs and alliances. Most of them have face growing opposition forces and have been finally defeat. PK, APK, and other alliances. Remember...

So guys, you're the most powerfull at the moment. Most of the time, we come, we try to fight even if we know that we will loose.

The situation was inverted in the past, and it will be in the future.

So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...

Good game !
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Re: Redding
« Reply #110 on: October 03, 2011, 11:30:15 pm »

Did you realize that its ALSO boring read your wall of complains? I am not on any side, but come on guys ...  :-X

If people don't read at least most of the topic and posts they repeat already discussed subjects and make this thread even bigger , boring to read.

So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...
Good game !

The hilarious part is that it's your own fault you have to deal with such a number now , don't even mention anything hilarious man.

I suggest you make love with hawks or tsar again , or and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D  I don't know if it is even possible now , you guys are just too unnecessary complicated  , i really don't give a fuck anymore because i want to have some interesting battles , i want to be challenged once in a while and i'm not the only one.

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Re: Redding
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2011, 12:04:47 am »

The hilarious part is that it's your own fault you have to deal with such a number now , don't even mention anything hilarious man.

Did you notice ? We don't complain and continue to fight. When it's hard it's interesting, to do and to analyse after, even if you loose.

I suggest you make love with hawks or tsar again , or and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D  I don't know if it is even possible now , you guys are just too unecessary complicated  , i really don't give a fuck anymore because i want to have some interesting battles , i want to be challenged once in a while and i'm not the only one.

You will surely not understand because it seems that you mainly enjoy to fight and to be vulgar but we have refuse some alliances for RP reasons. And we don't mind at the moment if it continues like that. It's not boring for us, we face good fighters. But yes, simple minds like simple things...

Anyway, you should change your signature. "Who is that bluesuit ? Live target practice !" doesn't really fit with your new "White Knights" alliance, protectors of the RP in the Wasteland.

Oh ! I've forgot: message transmitted.



Advice: open a book to learn that on sunday, it's a day off in most of the countries (So yes, on sunday at 3PM, we can fight) and that during the week most of the people are working at 3PM (and so we can't fight). At the same time you will surely learn some smartest words...
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Re: Redding
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2011, 12:26:45 am »

So the hilarious part will be at that moment, because you will surely lost memory and forget what you have said. But the web will not and it will be simple to quote you. And particulary, we will see what will do those who give us lessons of behaviour at the moment...

Good game !

Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.
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Re: Redding
« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2011, 12:50:52 am »

Did you notice ? We don't complain and continue to fight. When it's hard it's interesting, to do and to analyse after, even if you loose.

Amen you should try harder :)

You will surely not understand because it seems that you mainly enjoy to fight and to be vulgar but we have refuse some alliances for RP reasons. And we don't mind at the moment if it continues like that. It's not boring for us, we face good fighters. But yes, simple minds like simple things...

Anyway, you should change your signature. "Who is that bluesuit ? Live target practice !" doesn't really fit with your new "White Knights" alliance, protectors of the RP in the Wasteland.

You got that right i'm pvp oriented and i don't prefer to roleplay , i'm mostly vulgar when i don't give a rats ass dunno maybe it's because of my careless mood , but hey at least i'm not the one that seeks " justice " eradicating all " outlaws " in the wasteland , i may go with a simple thought but at least it's not a sick one. I guess lunatics like weird things.

Since when rogues are roleplay oriented ? Did i miss something or is it your stupidity ....

Oh ! I've forgot: message transmitted.



Advice: open a book to learn that on sunday, it's a day off in most of the countries (So yes, on sunday at 3PM, we can fight) and that during the week most of the people are working at 3PM (and so we can't fight). At the same time you will surely learn some smartest words...

I was referring to this. Hah now i know he got the message thanks.



Man how cheesy can you get ?


Your still talking about the timezones ? It's discussed already.

btw about your RP restrictions , it's still your fault...


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Re: Redding
« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2011, 02:31:20 am »

Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.

Thx Nice Boat nothing else to tell...
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Re: Redding
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2011, 11:56:42 am »

and maybe call in reese's gang ? ;D

Do not say it too loud or they will do it :D
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Re: Redding
« Reply #116 on: October 04, 2011, 03:02:04 pm »

All of you should seriously read Lidae's post. According to how you write and argumentate your posts, you didn't read the Wall of Text or either you aren't able to analyze and understand corrently an argumentation from a different point of view from yours.

For the past several months, the combined forces of C88 and TTTLA have fluctuated heavily from day to day and from hour to hour. During european daytime, on the weekdays, we have usually only a handful of people online, if anybody at all, and the numbers are usually growing toward the evening and culminating at night around 1 or 2 am. The exact reason for this I don't know, but the situation have been the same for much longer than TSAR's recent redding project.

The thing that has changed, however, is the number of enemies of TTTLA and C88. During the summer there was a substantial drought in TC, basically our only enemies were BHH, and we were able to fight them with relatively small numbers. Since TSAR took Redding, however, our enemies have been more numerous. Of course we can't attack an alliance of 20 people if we only have 10 ourselves, especially if you have the 500hp merc militia that is the trademark of TSAR.

Nobody will attack unless there's at least a small chance of winning, this is nothing unique to TTTLA or C88 or any other faction. A fight can be fun even if you lose, but if the numbers are too skewed, the fight will be too one sided to be enjoyable. For this reason we have been forced to wait until the numbers have equalised. The exact moment this happens depends on several factors, including day to day variations, but if the militia is strong you need at least 10 people to try something. If additionally there are enemies to defend, you need more. So when TSAR holds the town, we are forced to wait until we have enough people to strike. It's not our fault that this usually doesn't happen until after midnight, when TSAR is starting to go to bed and CoA get more people online due to people from other time zones coming home from work.

The fact of the matter is that the recent TSAR, BBS, Hawk and Rogue alliance regularly have more than 20 people online, a number that CoA haven't been able to reach in over a month. We are severely outnumbered during the day, just as you are sometimes outnumbered during the night. You are the ones complaining about late attacks, but the same logic can be applied in reverse: you are the ones attacking too early. Are you enjoying the PvE, retaking the town from us each day before we have enough numbers to counter you? You are such cowards for attacking us when there's no chance for an equal fight, trolololo.

So, I kindly invite everyone so blood thirst to fight with us, to come to our public channel #Crazy88 in Forest.net IRC and we can set up fights checking numbers both of the contenders have.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2011, 03:16:42 pm by Jackall »
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Re: Redding
« Reply #117 on: October 04, 2011, 05:23:32 pm »

Dude, I've been around since 2009, my gang has been in dire straits many times and not even once have I set my alarm clock to ring at 3 AM aiming to dodge our opponents and take the towns nobody was guarding at the moment. You guys just keep playing dirty to the extent it defies common sense. That's the difference and that's why you're getting ridiculed and everyone else is not. Deal with it.
protip: we never set our alarm clocks to 8am the morning on weekends just to take the town, there are just some people that are allowed to stay up past 11pm and dont get send to bed by mommy.

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Re: Redding
« Reply #118 on: October 04, 2011, 06:03:45 pm »

protip: we never set our alarm clocks to 8am the morning on weekends just to take the town, there are just some people that are allowed to stay up past 11pm and dont get send to bed by mommy.

Sorry to have girlfriends and/or irl lifes !
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Re: Redding
« Reply #119 on: October 04, 2011, 07:10:24 pm »

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So, I kindly invite everyone so blood thirst to fight with us, to come to our public channel #Crazy88 in Forest.net IRC and we can set up fights checking numbers both of the contenders have.

This is supposed to be at anytime. You don't have excuses now.

Just for the records: after 5 hours from the invitation nobody still shown up.
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